I've always knew you where a softie Ken :-)
Hope the grebe did well.

I see your point Ken. You have pointed at the Ackilles of the image. The pop 
could have been better. I tried a more classic b&w conversion. The bird 
popped rather well in that rendering. But I wasn't able to controll the 
higlights in the upper part of the image good enough. So it made it an 
distraction. Sephia seemed to be the way to go, capuring the original colour 
mood of the scene a bit better too.

But thanks for looking, and for your honest opinion. Appreciated. It may 
have pushed me further looking for better solution.

But for now, can't please them all ;-)

Tim Typo
Mostly Harmless

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: PESO Challenger


Reminds me of a situation a few years ago in south central Utah - far from a
body of water - I was photographing canyons & came across a Grebe <a water
bird> out in the midst of what most would call desert. There's no way it
could take off (without water) & with the temperature in the 90 to 100
degree F range, it wasn't going to last long. The group I was with decided
we'd take him with us, try to keep him cool, give him water & on the way
back to the motel, put him in a small pond we remembered along the way. Hope
he/she made it, we sure gave it a second chance.

Oh the image BTW - I like the idea & composition but the execution doesn't
work for me. The subject needs separation from the background for it to
"pop".

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO Challenger


> Hi gang. It is PESO time again!!!
>
> Some of you may have seen this. I know Dave and Godfrey  has because I
> asked
> for some help on some photoshoping.
>
> I think the english name for this bird Red-throated Loon. The title of the
> picture may seem obvious, but there is a bit more to it. So I litle
> expanation may help. These birds are very adapted to life in water.
> Because
> of this, they have the legs on the lower regions of their body. And this
> makes them very clumsy when it comes to walking. Unlike the pinguins thet
> don't have a upright walk. I guess thats because they are very shy, and
> upright walking would have made them very exposed towards enemies.
> In fact they don't walk at all. So they basically have flying mode, diving
> mode ad swiming mode. So they have a major problem going from swiming
> mode,
> to flight. It takes a lot of preperations, and a lot of energy. So it is
> challenging, and every now and then, I expect they fail (like Challenger
> did).
>
> More than enough words, her it is
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=331054 (My good site)
> Panned with my faithful conpanions: K10D and K-500/4,5, and gimbal mount.
> 400 ISO, 1/250, and most likely f:8.
>
> Bricks, tomatoes, sugestions, or just shameless praising, all appresiated.
>
> Tim Typo
> Mostly Harmless


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