You're right about the threshold for this list, Paul... :-)

I just found the excitement a bit out off proportion to the initiating term...

Jostein

2008/1/29, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I found Peter's argument very credible. And the descriptor you cite
> below is quite mild as name calling goes. Particularly for this list:-).
> Paul
> On Jan 29, 2008, at 3:34 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > When you can get _that_ agitated by a mild word "hoax", said in jest,
> > and go on to call everyone what you do, it doesn't lend much
> > credibility to your arguments.
> >
> > "Holy crusaders of mother Gaia"... Sorry, Peter. Calm down.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jostein
> >
> > 2008/1/29, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Their solutions are not necessarily correct either..  I should know
> >> better than give an inch in this debate.  The holy crusaders of
> >> mother
> >> Gaia don't seem to take human suffering, except for their own, and
> >> sometimes not even that, into account.  If the suffering is far
> >> enough
> >> away, or doesn't conform to their political argument, then it's
> >> unimportant or strangely not happening.  The people living in
> >> poverty in
> >> far off lands "want" to live that way, and it's "better for them"
> >> anyway
> >> to retain their quaint customs instead of adopting the same
> >> comforts of
> >> "so called civilization", (I'm using words here that I've heard
> >> all too
> >> often from so called environmentalists in quotes),  that the
> >> environmentalists, most of them safely protected from any real nature
> >> enjoy.  After all if the regulations that are necessary to "Save the
> >> Planet", cause a factory to close, or not be built in the first
> >> place,
> >> and a relatively poor person to lose their job or never get a better
> >> one, and go to bed a little hungry, maybe live a shorter more brutish
> >> life with few amenities,  it was the businesses fault for not
> >> building
> >> or closing that factory, or the systems fault for not
> >> "incentiveizing"
> >> some kind of work for the nether regions or the world or capitalisms
> >> fault because it's so rapacious, never the regulators or the
> >> environmentalists.  They almost never discuss costs vs benefits
> >> except
> >> to dismiss them, or dismiss those who try to take them into account.
> >>
> >> AlunFoto wrote:
> >>> P.J. Alling wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I hate this use of the word Hoax.  A hoax doesn't harm people,
> >>>> except
> >>>> maybe the pride of the gullible.  If the global warming fanatics
> >>>> are
> >>>> wrong, then many people will be harmed by their actions.  If
> >>>> they're
> >>>> right then serious actions should be taken, though not
> >>>> unnecessarily the
> >>>> ones they propose .  Either way the debate isn't helped by the
> >>>> use of
> >>>> improper terms.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> "Fanatics" are the ones who drive this debate to where most of us
> >>> have
> >>> to take a stance. But using it as a label for the other group
> >>> doesn't
> >>> help the debate much either. :-)
> >>>
> >>> Love yer sentence ".. though not _un_necessarily the ones they
> >>> propose".
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Jostein
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> >> A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated.
> >> When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world
> >>        -- Anonymous
> >>
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