Their solutions are not necessarily correct either..  I should know 
better than give an inch in this debate.  The holy crusaders of mother 
Gaia don't seem to take human suffering, except for their own, and 
sometimes not even that, into account.  If the suffering is far enough 
away, or doesn't conform to their political argument, then it's 
unimportant or strangely not happening.  The people living in poverty in 
far off lands "want" to live that way, and it's "better for them" anyway 
to retain their quaint customs instead of adopting the same comforts of 
"so called civilization", (I'm using words here that I've heard all too 
often from so called environmentalists in quotes),  that the 
environmentalists, most of them safely protected from any real nature 
enjoy.  After all if the regulations that are necessary to "Save the 
Planet", cause a factory to close, or not be built in the first place, 
and a relatively poor person to lose their job or never get a better 
one, and go to bed a little hungry, maybe live a shorter more brutish 
life with few amenities,  it was the businesses fault for not building 
or closing that factory, or the systems fault for not "incentiveizing" 
some kind of work for the nether regions or the world or capitalisms 
fault because it's so rapacious, never the regulators or the 
environmentalists.  They almost never discuss costs vs benefits except 
to dismiss them, or dismiss those who try to take them into account. 

AlunFoto wrote:
> P.J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> I hate this use of the word Hoax.  A hoax doesn't harm people, except
>> maybe the pride of the gullible.  If the global warming fanatics are
>> wrong, then many people will be harmed by their actions.  If they're
>> right then serious actions should be taken, though not unnecessarily the
>> ones they propose .  Either way the debate isn't helped by the use of
>> improper terms.
>>     
>
> "Fanatics" are the ones who drive this debate to where most of us have
> to take a stance. But using it as a label for the other group doesn't
> help the debate much either. :-)
>
> Love yer sentence ".. though not _un_necessarily the ones they propose".
>
> Cheers,
> Jostein
>
>   


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