>> "Holy crusaders of mother Gaia"... It is a religion to some.
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Global warming: Icy lolipops >I found Peter's argument very credible. And the descriptor you cite > below is quite mild as name calling goes. Particularly for this list:-). > Paul > On Jan 29, 2008, at 3:34 AM, AlunFoto wrote: > >> Peter, >> >> When you can get _that_ agitated by a mild word "hoax", said in jest, >> and go on to call everyone what you do, it doesn't lend much >> credibility to your arguments. >> >> "Holy crusaders of mother Gaia"... Sorry, Peter. Calm down. >> >> Best, >> Jostein >> >> 2008/1/29, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> Their solutions are not necessarily correct either.. I should know >>> better than give an inch in this debate. The holy crusaders of >>> mother >>> Gaia don't seem to take human suffering, except for their own, and >>> sometimes not even that, into account. If the suffering is far >>> enough >>> away, or doesn't conform to their political argument, then it's >>> unimportant or strangely not happening. The people living in >>> poverty in >>> far off lands "want" to live that way, and it's "better for them" >>> anyway >>> to retain their quaint customs instead of adopting the same >>> comforts of >>> "so called civilization", (I'm using words here that I've heard >>> all too >>> often from so called environmentalists in quotes), that the >>> environmentalists, most of them safely protected from any real nature >>> enjoy. After all if the regulations that are necessary to "Save the >>> Planet", cause a factory to close, or not be built in the first >>> place, >>> and a relatively poor person to lose their job or never get a better >>> one, and go to bed a little hungry, maybe live a shorter more brutish >>> life with few amenities, it was the businesses fault for not >>> building >>> or closing that factory, or the systems fault for not >>> "incentiveizing" >>> some kind of work for the nether regions or the world or capitalisms >>> fault because it's so rapacious, never the regulators or the >>> environmentalists. They almost never discuss costs vs benefits >>> except >>> to dismiss them, or dismiss those who try to take them into account. >>> >>> AlunFoto wrote: >>>> P.J. Alling wrote: >>>> >>>>> I hate this use of the word Hoax. A hoax doesn't harm people, >>>>> except >>>>> maybe the pride of the gullible. If the global warming fanatics >>>>> are >>>>> wrong, then many people will be harmed by their actions. If >>>>> they're >>>>> right then serious actions should be taken, though not >>>>> unnecessarily the >>>>> ones they propose . Either way the debate isn't helped by the >>>>> use of >>>>> improper terms. >>>>> >>>> >>>> "Fanatics" are the ones who drive this debate to where most of us >>>> have >>>> to take a stance. But using it as a label for the other group >>>> doesn't >>>> help the debate much either. :-) >>>> >>>> Love yer sentence ".. though not _un_necessarily the ones they >>>> propose". >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jostein >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. >>> A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. >>> When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world >>> -- Anonymous >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ >> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

