>> "Holy crusaders of mother Gaia"...

It is a religion to some.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Global warming: Icy lolipops


>I found Peter's argument very credible. And the descriptor you cite
> below is quite mild as name calling goes. Particularly for this list:-).
> Paul
> On Jan 29, 2008, at 3:34 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> When you can get _that_ agitated by a mild word "hoax", said in jest,
>> and go on to call everyone what you do, it doesn't lend much
>> credibility to your arguments.
>>
>> "Holy crusaders of mother Gaia"... Sorry, Peter. Calm down.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jostein
>>
>> 2008/1/29, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Their solutions are not necessarily correct either..  I should know
>>> better than give an inch in this debate.  The holy crusaders of
>>> mother
>>> Gaia don't seem to take human suffering, except for their own, and
>>> sometimes not even that, into account.  If the suffering is far
>>> enough
>>> away, or doesn't conform to their political argument, then it's
>>> unimportant or strangely not happening.  The people living in
>>> poverty in
>>> far off lands "want" to live that way, and it's "better for them"
>>> anyway
>>> to retain their quaint customs instead of adopting the same
>>> comforts of
>>> "so called civilization", (I'm using words here that I've heard
>>> all too
>>> often from so called environmentalists in quotes),  that the
>>> environmentalists, most of them safely protected from any real nature
>>> enjoy.  After all if the regulations that are necessary to "Save the
>>> Planet", cause a factory to close, or not be built in the first
>>> place,
>>> and a relatively poor person to lose their job or never get a better
>>> one, and go to bed a little hungry, maybe live a shorter more brutish
>>> life with few amenities,  it was the businesses fault for not
>>> building
>>> or closing that factory, or the systems fault for not
>>> "incentiveizing"
>>> some kind of work for the nether regions or the world or capitalisms
>>> fault because it's so rapacious, never the regulators or the
>>> environmentalists.  They almost never discuss costs vs benefits
>>> except
>>> to dismiss them, or dismiss those who try to take them into account.
>>>
>>> AlunFoto wrote:
>>>> P.J. Alling wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hate this use of the word Hoax.  A hoax doesn't harm people,
>>>>> except
>>>>> maybe the pride of the gullible.  If the global warming fanatics
>>>>> are
>>>>> wrong, then many people will be harmed by their actions.  If
>>>>> they're
>>>>> right then serious actions should be taken, though not
>>>>> unnecessarily the
>>>>> ones they propose .  Either way the debate isn't helped by the
>>>>> use of
>>>>> improper terms.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Fanatics" are the ones who drive this debate to where most of us
>>>> have
>>>> to take a stance. But using it as a label for the other group
>>>> doesn't
>>>> help the debate much either. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Love yer sentence ".. though not _un_necessarily the ones they
>>>> propose".
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jostein
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>        -- Anonymous
>>>
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