Frankly, I think the the market is going to skew towards Sony and Samsung. My classes used to be full of people with Canon Rebels and a smattering of Nikons. The last few classes have had about the same number of Nikons, but the Sonys are rapidly displacing the Rebels. Yesterday, I had the first occurance of a class without a single Rebel. All Sony and Nikon.
The young folks in my classes are way more familiar with the Sony brand than any of the camera brands we grew up with. I'm guessing not too many years from now we'll be watching a duel between Sony and Samsung. Keep in mind, I'm talking about the consumer market, not the pros. GS <http://georgesphotos.net> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, unless you want a small, weather sealed body, small high-quality > primes or fast stabilized lenses, or those wonderful manual focus > lenses you love so much. I've shot with Canon, Nikon and Pentax > DSLR's. The Canon's were my least favourite. I'd much rather shoot > Pentax than Canon. > > -Adam > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:51 PM, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I dont see why anyone who knows a thing or two would switch to > > pentax, Canon is a better overall system. > > > > jco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam > > Maas > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:17 PM > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Subject: Re: full frame rumours and innuendo > > > > > > The mistake you're making is assuming that people new to Pentax aren't > > experienced users. Lots of experienced shooters coming from various > > different places are buying into Pentax these days. > > > > -Adam > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > PEOPLE NEW TO THE BRAND ARE NOT THE ONES > > > THAT WILL CAUSE THE GOOD MANUAL FOCUS FF LENSES > > > TO SOAR IN VALUE, IT'S EXPERIENCED USERS > > > WHO PREFER MANUAL FOCUS FOR MOST APPLICATIONS! > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > Of > > > > > > > > > David Savage > > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:42 AM > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > Subject: Re: full frame rumours and innuendo > > > > > > > > > People new to the brand aren't interested in manual focus lenses no > > > matter how good they are. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Dave. > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:38 PM, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > short term maybe, but when FF permiates, the aps > lenses > > > are simply not going to be very desireable > when you have got a > > > nice FF camera in you hand. > > > > > Secondly, the other half of my statement was that > > > > the secondary market for FF lenses ( assuming good > > > > ones like smc K,M,A,F,FA etc will soar in value, > > > > especially the ones with features you cant buy anymore like the > > > > K,M,A ( precision manual focus ). jco > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > Of Adam Maas > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:29 AM > > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: full frame rumours and innuendo > > > > > > > > > > > > And the experience in the Nikon world is that the high-end DX lenses > > > > hold their value even after FF arrives. > > > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Paul Stenquist > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Like the Canon and Nikon offerings, Pentax advanced amateur cameras > > > > > will always outsell any FF camera by a wide margin. They're > > obviously > > > > > not going to abandon APS-C at any point in the near or even > > somewhat > > > > > distant future. So lens values will remain at least reasonably > > > > > constant. As for me, I'll have paid for my DA lenses in work long > > > > > before a FF camera is available. And like Nikon FF cameras, I'm > > sure > > > > > a Pentax offering will have a DA frame size option. Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:11 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > > > > Watch the secondary market FF lenses soar in value as the DA > > > > > > lenses plummet if and when this happens. This is why I havent > > > > > > bought anything but really good FF lenses for myself. > jco > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > > Derby Chang > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:28 AM > > > > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > Subject: full frame rumours and innuendo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...but probably inevitable > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/6bczpo > > > > > > http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/ > > > > > > Samsung_hints_at_fullframe_sensor_ > > > > > > for_professional_digital_SLR_camera_news_227234.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > > above > > > and > > > > > > follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > > above > > > > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > M. 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