Sony's got the best deal going right now with the A200. Nikon's D40 is the value leader. The Rebels are either under-spec'd or overpriced (or both in the case of the XTi). I'm not shocked to see Sony and Nikon dominating right now.
Samsung has not made a significant play for market share. They're playing Panasonic's game, looking for a strong niche. -Adam On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 5:17 PM, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frankly, I think the the market is going to skew towards Sony and > Samsung. My classes used to be full of people with Canon Rebels and a > smattering of Nikons. The last few classes have had about the same > number of Nikons, but the Sonys are rapidly displacing the Rebels. > Yesterday, I had the first occurance of a class without a single > Rebel. All Sony and Nikon. > > The young folks in my classes are way more familiar with the Sony > brand than any of the camera brands we grew up with. I'm guessing not > too many years from now we'll be watching a duel between Sony and > Samsung. > > Keep in mind, I'm talking about the consumer market, not the pros. > > GS > <http://georgesphotos.net> > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, unless you want a small, weather sealed body, small high-quality > > primes or fast stabilized lenses, or those wonderful manual focus > > lenses you love so much. I've shot with Canon, Nikon and Pentax > > DSLR's. The Canon's were my least favourite. I'd much rather shoot > > Pentax than Canon. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:51 PM, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I dont see why anyone who knows a thing or two would switch to > > > pentax, Canon is a better overall system. > > > > > > jco > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam > > > Maas > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:17 PM > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > Subject: Re: full frame rumours and innuendo > > > > > > > > > The mistake you're making is assuming that people new to Pentax aren't > > > experienced users. Lots of experienced shooters coming from various > > > different places are buying into Pentax these days. > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > PEOPLE NEW TO THE BRAND ARE NOT THE ONES > > > > THAT WILL CAUSE THE GOOD MANUAL FOCUS FF LENSES > > > > TO SOAR IN VALUE, IT'S EXPERIENCED USERS > > > > WHO PREFER MANUAL FOCUS FOR MOST APPLICATIONS! > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > > > > David Savage > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:42 AM > > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > Subject: Re: full frame rumours and innuendo > > > > > > > > > > > > People new to the brand aren't interested in manual focus lenses no > > > > matter how good they are. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:38 PM, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > short term maybe, but when FF permiates, the aps > lenses > > > > are simply not going to be very desireable > when you have got a > > > > nice FF camera in you hand. > > > > > > Secondly, the other half of my statement was that > > > > > the secondary market for FF lenses ( assuming good > > > > > ones like smc K,M,A,F,FA etc will soar in value, > > > > > especially the ones with features you cant buy anymore like the > > > > > K,M,A ( precision manual focus ). jco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > > Of Adam Maas > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:29 AM > > > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: full frame rumours and innuendo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the experience in the Nikon world is that the high-end DX > lenses > > > > > hold their value even after FF arrives. > > > > > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Paul Stenquist > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Like the Canon and Nikon offerings, Pentax advanced amateur > cameras > > > > > > will always outsell any FF camera by a wide margin. They're > > > obviously > > > > > > not going to abandon APS-C at any point in the near or even > somewhat > > > > > > distant future. So lens values will remain at least reasonably > > > > > > constant. As for me, I'll have paid for my DA lenses in work > long > > > > > > before a FF camera is available. And like Nikon FF cameras, I'm > sure > > > > > > a Pentax offering will have a DA frame size option. Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:11 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > > > > > > Watch the secondary market FF lenses soar in value as the DA > > > > > > > > lenses plummet if and when this happens. This is why I havent > > > > > > > bought anything but really good FF lenses for myself. > jco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > > > > Behalf Of > > > > > > > Derby Chang > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:28 AM > > > > > > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > > Subject: full frame rumours and innuendo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...but probably inevitable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/6bczpo > > > > > > > http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/ > > > > > > > Samsung_hints_at_fullframe_sensor_ > > > > > > > for_professional_digital_SLR_camera_news_227234.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > > > above > > > > and > > > > > > > follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > > > above > > > > > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above > > > > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > M. 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