That sounds like either you have a bad paper profile or the print driver for the R1800 has some issue ... it sounds like it is not listening to the "turn off color management" function as that's what stuff which has been double-managed usually looks like.
I'd see whether you can remove and re-install the printer driver and paper profiles with new ones downloaded from the Epson website. Beyond that ... I don't know enough about how Windows handles the print driver and profiles to help. Godfrey On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: > Godders, sorry to be late getting back to you. > I just walked through your directions and made a print that I had just > worked in PSE5 and printed with great results. > I made a print as per your instructions and then one where I let the > printer determine printing ( with the same papers and settings ). They > are essentially identical, barely able to see any difference., and > both are dark and muddy. > The problem is when I try to make the print lighter via the exposure > or brightness settings, the print gets really flat and the shadows go > green. This tells me something is out of whack! (That technical term > you used seems to be correct!!) > Thanks for your help. I am not giving up and will continue to see what > I can do. But, as I said, I still like LR and use it to import images > and catalog my stuff. > > Walt > > On 4/11/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, if you want to try it ... you should go to a color managed >> print workflow in Lightroom. I work on Mac OS X so the UI presented >> for the printer is a little different, but the concepts should be the >> same. IN the Print module: >> >> - Click the "page setup" button under the image to the right. You >> should get some kind of a hardware selector for which printer you >> want to use. Choose the R1800 and set the page size. Click OK. >> >> - At the bottom of the right hand panels, pick the Print Job panel. >> In the color management section, pick the dropdown menu ... if >> there's nothing in it otherwise, pick "Others". Check the profiles >> for your printer that match the papers you use. That populates the >> menu. Click ok, then pick the profile for the specific paper you're >> going to use to test with. >> >> - Now click the Print Settings button at the bottom. Set the printer >> hardware, set the media type for the kind of paper you're using, set >> the options for Color, Advanced mode, and Best Photo quality. Find >> the Color Management settings and turn color management OFF. >> (Lightroom will run the color translations.) Click the OK or save >> button. >> >> Now you're set up to print using the profile and color management. >> Click the print button, click ok, and you should get a print that >> matches your screen (presuming your screen is close to proper >> calibration). >> >> Prints from Lightroom should be identical or better than prints from >> PSE if you have good profiles and set this up correctly. If not ... >> something is seriously out of whack (a technical expression ;-). >> >> Godfrey >> >> >> >> On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: >>> Godfrey, I am using a PC, XP Pro. I use the Epson R1800. >>> I use Epson inks and Epson Glossy Paper, Pro or whatever. I have the >>> Epson profiles. >>> Like I said, I let the printer control the print in both programs >>> and >>> the PSE always comes out perfect. The LR , since two updates ago, is >>> really bad. I cannot make it print good, no matter what I do to the >>> image. >>> It's really not a big deal. I am very happy with both programs and >>> just use them as per their greatest attributes to me. >>> >>> Walt >>> >>> On 4/11/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> What printer? are you printing with a profiled workflow with >>>> manufacturer inks? >>>> >>>> The printer driver's dialog box for the Epson R2400 (on Mac OS X >>>> Leopard) is organized in a different manner. It's quite possible to >>>> miss a setting that you're used to on Mac OS X Tiger. >>>> >>>> The right way to test the printing is to not consider the RAW >>>> conversion as part of the process. >>>> >>>> - Export a high resolution TIFF file with sRGB profile from >>>> Lightroom >>>> or create an sRGB TIFF file with Photoshop Elements to be used as a >>>> reference standard. >>>> >>>> - Create a new Lightroom catalog and import that TIFF file. Test >>>> printing. >>>> >>>> - Open that TIFF file with Photshop Elements and test printing. >>>> >>>> If you print with the same driver and the same workflow this >>>> way, the >>>> print should be the same if all is working correctly. If there >>>> is any >>>> difference, look for differences in how you establish the print >>>> settings. >>>> >>>> Godfrey >>>> >>>> On Apr 11, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: >>>>> I too downloaded and it seems to run fine. >>>>> >>>>> However, the print module is still giving me either washed out >>>>> flat >>>>> prints or very dark and muddy. I have tried every combination of >>>>> print >>>>> setup and various modes/drivers, etc and nothing helps. >>>>> >>>>> I can load the very same dng into PSE6 and do the raw >>>>> conversion and >>>>> open in Elements, setup as usual and get a great print first >>>>> time. I >>>>> just use Lightroom to catalog and convert to jpegs for web/other >>>>> sharing needs. >>>>> >>>>> Walt >>>>> >>>>> On 4/11/08, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Mac http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3891 >>>>>> Win http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3892 >>>>>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
