Underexposure and correction in conversion always results in severe noise. 
Don't kow why. But I know it happens, so I avoid it. And yes there is some 
noise reduction logic applied to high ISO images in the K20D. You are able to 
choose a level. I have mine set to "weak," I believe. However, the camera 
defaults to "strong" at ISO 6400. So 6400 images are somewhat lacking in 
detail, but where that much speed is necessary, they're better than no image. 
Here's a 6400 pic that I shot when I first bought the camera. The only light is 
from a television screen across the room. Haven't really used that high an ISO 
since then.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7006983&size=lg

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From: Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > No, it's not the result of image processing you could apply in  
> > PhotoShop. I shoot only RAW. The RAW data is far superior.
> Isn't some of the "noise reduction" logic applied even in "raw" mode?
> >  It's  
> > apparently the result of a sensor that generates less heat at high  
> > ISO than the K10D sensor.
> >   
> You mean, the gain circuits generate add more noise due to increased 
> heat at high ISO settings? And this is less of a problem in the newer 
> bodies?
> 
> But if this is the case, wouldn't you get better results with the older 
> bodies by underexposing at a lower and then correcting the output?
> 
> - T
> 
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