On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:31:26AM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit:
> Graydon wrote:
>> What I've been finding is that no amount of careful propping on terrain,
>> breath control, etc. really helps with being perfectly still for
>> *range*;
>
> See, that's a big difference right there.  The stuff I shoot, cars at  
> high speed in close proximity, leaves lots of room for "acceptable  
> error".  Critical focus doesn't appear anywhere in the lexicon of  
> someone standing ten or twenty feet from cars going past at a hundred  
> miles an hour (no joke).  I'm lucky if the whole damned thing isn't an  
> overwashed watercolor of abstract blurs.

*chortle*

The only point of commonality seems to be the over-washed watercolour;
I'm generally after small birds, who aren't sitting still on a branch
that isn't holding still, and because the branch range of motion is
large with respect to the size of the bird, actual in-focus is a
function of guessing where bird and branch are going to be.

I don't do as well at that as I should best prefer.

[snip]
> The stuff I shoot, I dial in enough DoF to take care of it and shoot
> like a madman. At the 'nearer infinity' end of the focus range, DoF
> isn't an issue at any "reasonable" f stop.  Shooting flowers in the
> front yard, I care about DoF and critical focus.  Shooting race cars a
> few feet away from me, I just try not to get killed.

May you continue to experience success!

>> I get maybe one in five right on hand-holding 800 or 500 mm mirror
>> lenses; I can't imagine a heavier lens makes this easier.  Autofocus
>> probably would.
>
> Sheer physics means I wouldn't find much use for really long glass at
> the track.  Yeah, I would get another hundred shots, but I'm doing
> three  or four thousand shots in a four-day event anyway ... and
> "close due to  magnification" shots just don't have the same "soiled
> underwear" feel  that actually close to the action shots do.  Or maybe
> it's just me.

There's bound to be a degree of emotional association with the
circumstances of taking that shot; that happens when taking the flower
pictures and the bucolic landscapes, after all.

Though I think there is a subtle set of cues that let people know if the
image was taken with a short lens or a long lens; I'm certainly much
more impressed by short-lens bear pictures, for example.  (For some
value of impressed that involves questioning sanity...)

> 16mm at ten feet fighting the aerodynamic wake is just ... uh ...
> exciting ...  yeah, that's it.  Exciting.  Just /slightly/ less
> exciting than being the guy creating that wake.  Road Atlanta's turn
> six is just ... uh ...  exciting.

So, what you're saying is that if you could have a remote camera pod --
tripod, camera, 3 axis powered pan/tilt/roll head, safe remote operator
location -- you probably wouldn't take it?

-- Graydon

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