On Mar 23, 2010, at 9:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Ah, yes the ol' "Black and Blue".
> 
The best to be sure. But you need a hellaciously hot fire. I can only get deep 
brown and red on my gas grill. Charcoal gives one a fighting chance.

I made some tri-tip steaks tonight. That's poor man's steak. But they were 
quite good, grilled rapidly and rare with plenty of salt and pepper. They don't 
look good: wrong shape for a steak. And they usually have a bit of gristle 
somewhere. But they're well marbled and tender. A bargain at around $3 a pound.
Paul


> On 3/23/2010 4:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> To each his own.
>> 
>> I like my steak (and my tuna) grilled so it is charred on the outside
>> and purple in the center. The best of both worlds.   I also enjoy
>> steak tartare, but that is harder to find.  The last excellent one I
>> found was in Quebec.
>> 
>> Dan MN
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Brian Walters<[email protected]>  
>> wrote:
>>   
>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:25 -0400, "Doug Franklin"
>>> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>     
>>>> On 2010-03-23 12:24, John Francis wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 08:34:00AM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>> On 2010-03-23 8:04, William Robb wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> I've stopped ordering steak when I go to a restaurant. I'm a philistine
>>>>>>>> who like steak well done (ie. not a pink morsel anywhere). I think
>>>>>>>> that's a task beyond the ability of most chefs.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> Any chef worth of the title would consider that a lack of taste on the
>>>>>>> part of the diner.
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> F*** the chef, I'm paying for the meal, not a snotty attitude.
>>>>>>           
>>>>> Then go to a diner.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When you go to a "fine dining" establishment you are paying for the
>>>>> expertise of the chef.  Telling him how to do his job is a dumb idea.
>>>>>         
>>>> We'll just have to disagree on this one.  If I'm footing the bill, it
>>>> should be cooked the way I want it, if I specify.  Asking for a steak
>>>> with no pink and receiving a mooing cow, on my dime, is not on.
>>>>       
>>> 
>>> Yes!  In any restaurant I've been to the waiter asks how you'd like your
>>> steak cooked.  If I say 'well done', I bloody well mean it!
>>> 
>>> (er, I mean it un-bloodied, actually)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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