OK, I apologize up front. This got a bit long, so you might want to just hit the "delete" key now. :-)

On 2010-03-23 17:28, John Francis wrote:

My point was more that you *are* paying for the snotty attitude.
That, to some extent, is what differentiates a "chef" from a cook.
>
> A good place will work with you to find something you will like
> that is cooked the way the chef would like to prepare it.  That
> doesn't sound like it would be a steak in your situation.

/Aus les contres/ (I'm sure that's not even grammatically correct, but you get my point, I suspect) I'm paying for what I asked for. A /chef/ understands that. You published a menu. You asked me what I want. I told you. That's a promise, and, in some polities, a contract. If you take it upon yourself to deliver something else, your whining about "caveman Americans" is pointless, nationalistic road apples (horse excrement, if "road apples" is not a phrase you recognize).

I've /never/ had a problem in a truly "haute cuisine" restaurant. I've had no end of trouble with self-elected, self-important little shits who think they're chefs.

Personally, I almost never eat at "haute cuisine" restaurants in the US for exactly that reason. I often eat at them outside the US. In those situations, I have a discussion with the waiter, we agree, the waiter takes my order, has a discussion with the chef, and I get what I want with "reasonable" excursions on the Chef's ideas. I get what I like, even though I might not have known or have ever tried it before. The waiter and the chef and I all took the time to communicate, and the chef both took the time and knew enough to merge his ideas of a great meal with mine.

One particular evening, in about 1994, I went to dinner with some friends in the south of France. I was there on business, with several colleagues transiting in and out. One of my colleagues knew the area and drove us up into the hills to some of his favorite haunts. It was maybe fifty or sixty kilometers north of Nice, up in the beginnings of the mountains.

For evening meal, we went to this little place with maybe seven or eight tables, in a small room of a "castle" from maybe the 13th or 14th century, it seemed. So my colleague has called ahead and placed our reservation. Actually, it was likely more like he told them a party of four was an hour or so away. I say that because, when we arrived, and for the entire evening, we were the only party in the place.

Anyway, we get there and settle ourselves. Almost immediately, a young man comes out, takes and delivers our drink orders, and leaves some "nibbles" at our table.

So, we sit, we drink, we talk, we nibble the snacks. After maybe ten minutes, another young man comes in. He introduces himself by given name, in flawless, unaccented English, French, and German, to suit each guest individually. He asks and is invited to join our table. After ten or fifteen minutes, he surprises the heck out of us by revealing that he's not some local roue out to meet foreigners, he's our waiter!

He describes the entrees and the daily specials, then asks our meal preferences. The ensuing discussion consumes about thirty minutes and about a bottle of wine, in which our waiter freely participates, at our instigation. When we've all come to a dinner conclusion, our new friend excuses himself to discuss our preferences with the chef.

I wanted a specific item, a particularly fresh cut of locally butchered beef. And I wanted it cooked just past the point the middle would have been pink. The waiter told the chef. Via the waiter, the chef expressed his reservations. Again via the waiter, I expressed my confidence that he (the chef) could satisfy my desire for "doneness" with his aesthetics, and my further confidence to leave the results in his well-earned judgment.

Between them, they defined and conjured a meal for me, and for each of us, that exceeded the wildest expectations. Maybe they were just bored, since we were the only party. Or maybe they were consummate professionals who loved their professions /and/ their clients.

To me, the fundamental point was that they were specifically interested in what /I/ wanted. If I'm going to lay out "haute cuisine" prices, I expect that level of attention.

If you insist on a well-done steak you're telling the chef that
you don't value his skills.

Well, the chef is certainly able to interpret it that way, but that's not the way I'm offering it. I'm offering it as "if you serve me a bleeding hunk of meat, I'm gonna puke on your table".

Would you want to work for a client who insisted on telling you
that he wanted every photograph overexposed by three stops?

If his checks are big enough and don't bounce, I'll do anything he wants me to.

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Thanks,
DougF (KG4LMZ)

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