While, as I've said, I didn't read the subject message, I heartily agree with 
your comments, Paul!

Jack

--- On Mon, 4/5/10, paul stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: paul stenquist <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Define "blown out" :-)
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 5:20 PM
> 
> On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> > Brian Walters wrote:
> > 
> >> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:24 -0700, "Jack Davis"
> <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>> I gave my honest reaction to the crude first
> half dozen words of your
> >>> first sentence. I read no further nor do I
> intend to.
> >>> You're obviously still stinging from the
> dressing down you receive some
> >>> time ago.
> >> 
> >> Geez - I'll have to pay better attention. 
> Must have missed that one.
> >> 
> >> :-)>
> >> 
> >> FWIW, I though Godders' original reply was
> informative.  Maybe not what
> >> you were looking for but I got some good value out
> of it.
> > 
> > I'll second that. I thought Godfrey's answer was right
> on the money.
> 
> I agree. But while I worked with the zone system when
> printing in the darkroom, I find it somewhat useless for
> digital photography and printing, where some scenes are best
> exposed for the highlights and others for the shadows.
> Because we now have access to instant histograms, control
> can be much more precise than that of a system which was
> devised for photographers who had to work with light meters
> and a zone 5 base. There are times when letting the shadow
> detail go off scale is desirable and those where out of
> range highlights complement the photographers intent. The
> histogram is our friend.
> 
> 
> > 
> > All I'd add would be that it's best to start with a
> good quality
> > monitor: I've found if a monitor isn't good quality
> then profiling it
> > is minimally helpful. You can improve shadow or
> highlight detail a
> > *little* through a profile, but not much. Better a
> top-notch monitor
> > without calibration/profiling than a TN monitor with
> calibration and
> > profiling in my experience.
> > 
> Calibration is essential to  color accuracy, and you
> can achieve that with a  good TN monitor. However, as I
> noted earlier, some TN monitors can't be counted on for
> perfect shadow detail delineation. But there are workarounds
> for that. I've found that if I calibrate the monitor than
> match the brightness level to what I need to achieve a
> perfect print, I'm golden with a less than perfect monitor.
> But without calibration, color accuracy is hit and miss.
> That being said, Id rather work with a top notch monitor.
> It's on my wish list:-).
> 
> Paul
> > 
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