From: "Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > (earlier message content snipped) > > > > > My point is that there's no guessing at all with a VCCE head when > > changing filtration. > > > > The guessing that I referred to was the initial determination of print > exposure.
OK, I wasn't. I was talking about making contrast changes midstream. > > My point is that, in the long run, it is more time and material > efficient to use a good enlarging meter than to start with a > test-wedge or a guesstimation. I wouldn't argue against that. > > If you are saying that a VCCE head plus a meter is more efficient than > a dichro head plus a meter (for variable contrast b&w) I would agree > in a heartbeat. Ok, so we agree! A meter is a great help when determining initial exposure, the VCCE head will save lots of time if changing contrast once exposure is known. > It certainly would eliminate the step of finding the > compensated exposure when changing grades. But I can't buy your > suggestion that VCCE ~without~ a meter can ever be as efficient as > dichro ~with~ a meter I don't think I ever suggested that... > > Either that or you can eyeball the correct grade and exposure first > time almost every time in which case I tip my hat to you :) Nope that's Mike, I'm not quite there yet. ;) > > > > > I suspect this (the tonal attributes of Agfa MC paper) depends on > > many > factors, including film, developer, > > time/temp, subject, etc. I personally don't use it much for the > > simple reason I like a cooler paper. Plus it turns a funny purple > > color when selenium toned. > > > > If you recall, my comparisons referred to the same negatives printed > on both Ilfospeed MG and Agfa MC papers, so the only variable in play > was the paper. What I was trying to point out is that those negs are going to 'fit' better on one type of paper. If you had used different film, or different time/temps you might have found that those particular negs would look better on another brand. > In Neutol, its recommended developer, it has the most > neutral (and deepest) black I've seen on any RC paper. If that isn't > good enough there are also cold toned and warm toned variants of > Neutol. Maybe I'll try that, I've only used it in Dektol and Ultra-Black. > > As for it's reaction to selenium toning, it reminds me of the old > doctor and patient joke: > > PATIENT: It only hurts when I laugh. > DOCTOR: So don't laugh. > > (ME: So don't selenium tone Agfa MC.) I tone just about everything, and find selenium is the easiest and cheapest way to go. > > In any case, if I was doing any toning other than simple sepia toning > I wouldn't spend my time or effort on a resin coated print. I hope that many of my RC prints last a long time, so they get selenium toned just like the fiber. tv -- Thomas Van Veen Photography 301-758-3085 www.bigdayphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
