Thanks, Bob. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer -- I'm finding it quite challenging to get a grip on the many facets of color management.
So, my intended use is also for photoshop and printing, with one caveat: I have no desire to do my own printing (my head hurts enough as it is). The goal is come up with a system whereby I can reliably send out files to be printed, with minimal frustration. I am a bit reluctant to try to "future proof" my decision now, especially if my current set-up won't benefit from the DisplayPort upgrade. I figure by the time the rest of my equipment is capable, the corresponding monitors should be more mainstream & affordable than they are now, anyway. But, I haven't ruled anything out yet. One thing that seems to make sense from what I've been reading, is to go with the bundled monitor/calibration system, which is also available for the P221... Thanks again, -c On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Bob Rapp <bobrap...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Christine, > In my original post, I made some basic assumptions that my not be > important for your use. My usage would be strictly for photoshop and > printing. The gamut of my printer is much larger that the sRGB color space. > If your use does not involve printing and is used solely as a display, any > monitor would work. > These new monitors allow setting the illumination down to a level suitable > for proofing images in Photoshop. I presently have a Samsung 2233 that is > usable at lower levels - my Dell 2207 is not. > Some of the newer notebook computers support DisplayPort. I do not know if > they support 10-bit color. In my case, I would have to purchase a new card > for my tower. With the DisplayPort, the PA241 monitor's internal 14-bit LUT > are adjusted during calibration. The P221 relies on the video card's 8-bit > LUT. > CS4 and 5 support 10-bit monitor color output. > The Macbook Pro does have a mini DisplayPort video but does not support > 10-bit color - future models may as these 10-bit monitors become more > main-stream. It still will program the monitor during calibration. > Prior to making your decision, Google each of the monitors and look for > calibration and viewing issues. > I hope this helps. > I will be travelling and have unsubscribed for now. Contact me directly if > you have any other questions. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Nielsen" <ch...@inielsen.net> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: monitor shopping > > > Ok, Bob.... I've been wrestling with your suggestion all day. And > though I'm still grappling with the ins & outs of 8 vs 10 bit color & > the DisplayPort technology, the big question I have is this: Is > having the DisplayPort any use to me right now? Using my camera > (k7), computer (macbook pro) & software (cs4), will the NEC PA series > offer me anything over the P221W, as far as how it deals with color? > > Thanks for your input, > > -c > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Bob Rapp <bobrap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Christine, >> Choice of the NEC models should hinge on the intended use. DisplayPort is >> the new thing and some video card manufacturers support it and its use of >> 10-bit color vs. 8-bit color with the other interfaces. To future-proof >> your >> decision, the NEC PA series with colorimeter and software would be a >> costly >> but worthwhile decision. >> >> Bob >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Nielsen" >> <ch...@inielsen.net> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> >> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 7:51 AM >> Subject: Re: monitor shopping >> >> >> Yes, NEC appears to have some well-regarded models out right now... I >> found two in this "top 5" list from cnet.com >> http://reviews.cnet.com/2795-3174_7-450.html?tag=centerColumnArea1.2 >> >> Decisions, decisions... >> >> :) >> -c >> >> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:43 PM, eckinator <eckina...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> No knowledge of this particular model but in my job before last, I >>> purchased numerous different NEC displays for the marketing dept. and >>> they were always quite to very much pleased with them. NEC as a brand >>> was definitely a good choice during that time. >>> Ecke >>> >>> 2010/10/2 Christine Nielsen <ch...@inielsen.net>: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've decided to quit hunching over my laptop & get a real monitor, to >>>> be properly calibrated, just like all the cool kids have. Not only >>>> are my back & eyes killing me, but I think I would stand a better >>>> chance of getting some images out of my hard drive and onto paper if I >>>> could get a reliable handle on the color management thing. >>>> >>>> I've done some research, and though I still feel a bit out of my depth >>>> on this topic, my initial inclination is toward a NEC P221W >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=getItemDetail&Q=&sku=602072&is=REG&si=rev#anchorToReadReviews >>>> >>>> The price is right, and it comes well-recommended. Anyone care to >>>> disabuse me of this notion? What am I missing by not going with a >>>> $1000+ model, like a higher-end NEC, or Apple Cinema display, or Dell >>>> Ultra Sharp...? Are there others I should consider? (I think we can >>>> safely leave Eizo out of the discussion for now...) >>>> >>>> I'd also welcome any suggestions for other resources (online or in >>>> print) to educate myself better on the whole topic. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> >>>> -c >>>> >>>> ps: thank you to Fernando for raising the calibration question in a >>>> recent thread... 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