On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > We are just seeing the overlap of film stuff and digital sensors. So > many lenses were designed for the 35 mm format. We still use "medium > format" even though the sensor isn't that size. Look at the 645D. > The sensor isn't even close to 6 x4.5, but it was based on that body > design. It will take years (if ever) for a more rational terminology > to emerge, but as JCO points out we all know what it means. > History-laden terminology has a certain charm for many and, it seems, > especially photographers. > > I plan to start calling APS-C "the happy format" and see if it catches on. >
There are now so many different sensor sizes, that a description in millimeters would be most apt and informative. I expect we'll eventually come around to that, after the supply of silly names has been exhausted. With film, there was a reason to keep the range of sizes to a manageable level, and those sizes were largely dictated by the available supply of film. Now, with a wide range of sizes available, dimensional descriptions make sense. Paul > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:59 PM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> wrote: >> no, the way the term "full frame" is actually >> used in todays nomenclature is 24x36 sensor >> and lenses. You can mean it to whatever you >> want but its not anything but 24x36 at this >> point in time technology wise. BTW, I want >> Pentax to do a FF dslr, do you know what I >> mean? I think you do. >> >> -- >> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul >> Stenquist >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:53 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >> >> >> "Full frame" is a bit of silliness. It's irrelevant. Is a 645 camera "double >> frame?" There are many sensor sizes. All of them are full. Paul On Dec 19, >> 2010, at 4:24 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: >> >>> In my opinion, the modern DSLR usage of the term "full frame" means >>> cameras and lenses designed for 24x36mm sensors. It doesn't mean all >>> the various formats out there are full frame just because the lens >>> fits and covers whatever non 24x36mm frame size is being used. Pentax >>> DA lenses are not "full frame" lenses in the context of todays gear. >>> >>> -- >>> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >>> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Boris Liberman >>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:00 AM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >>> >>> >>> On 12/19/2010 2:11 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >>>> Then why worry about the lens frame? A lens designed for APS-C will >>>> outperform one designed for 24 x 36. (They're both full frame. Just >>>> different frames.) Paul >>> >>> I opine (may be wrong, but that's my right) that some 24x36 designed >>> lenses outperform some 18x24 ones. In particular, some Sigma EX 24x36 >>> lenses show impressive degree of correction of geometric distortions. >>> For my kind of shooting it makes them particularly attractive given >>> their price tag. >>> >>> You're however absolutely right that there are no "partial" frame >>> lenses >>> here. Unless of course, we're speaking of circular fish eyes /grin/. >>> >>> Boris >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
