Bill Gates:"64K is more than enough RAM" "more resolution is always better to have" :jco -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:40 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > why do I want a Pentax FF DSLR? One of the reasons > would be those big wide viewfinders like on the > MX. wow those look great compared to the tunnel > vision viewfinders found on aps-C DSLRs. The other > reason would be higher system resolution and or > lower noise compared to aps-c system > -- The K-r viewfinder isn't as wide as the MX -- which is too wide for some -- but it's the equal of many film cameras. In terms of noise, it does better at high ISO than most 24 x 36 DSLRs, and with 16.4 megapixels, it's very competitive in resolution. I don't need full frame. Paul > J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) > Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Steven Desjardins > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way > > > We are just seeing the overlap of film stuff and digital sensors. So > many lenses were designed for the 35 mm format. We still use "medium > format" even though the sensor isn't that size. Look at the 645D. The > sensor isn't even close to 6 x4.5, but it was based on that body > design. It will take years (if ever) for a more rational terminology > to emerge, but as JCO points out we all know what it means. > History-laden terminology has a certain charm for many and, it seems, > especially photographers. > > I plan to start calling APS-C "the happy format" and see if it catches > on. > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:59 PM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> > wrote: >> no, the way the term "full frame" is actually >> used in todays nomenclature is 24x36 sensor >> and lenses. You can mean it to whatever you >> want but its not anything but 24x36 at this >> point in time technology wise. BTW, I want >> Pentax to do a FF dslr, do you know what I >> mean? I think you do. >> >> -- >> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Paul Stenquist >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:53 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >> >> >> "Full frame" is a bit of silliness. It's irrelevant. Is a 645 camera >> "double frame?" There are many sensor sizes. All of them are full. >> Paul On Dec 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: >> >>> In my opinion, the modern DSLR usage of the term "full frame" means >>> cameras and lenses designed for 24x36mm sensors. It doesn't mean all >>> the various formats out there are full frame just because the lens >>> fits and covers whatever non 24x36mm frame size is being used. Pentax >>> DA lenses are not "full frame" lenses in the context of todays gear. >>> >>> -- >>> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >>> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Boris Liberman >>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:00 AM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >>> >>> >>> On 12/19/2010 2:11 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >>>> Then why worry about the lens frame? A lens designed for APS-C will >>>> outperform one designed for 24 x 36. (They're both full frame. Just >>>> different frames.) Paul >>> >>> I opine (may be wrong, but that's my right) that some 24x36 designed >>> lenses outperform some 18x24 ones. In particular, some Sigma EX 24x36 >>> lenses show impressive degree of correction of geometric distortions. >>> For my kind of shooting it makes them particularly attractive given >>> their price tag. >>> >>> You're however absolutely right that there are no "partial" frame >>> lenses here. Unless of course, we're speaking of circular fish eyes >>> /grin/. >>> >>> Boris >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
