On Dec 19, 2010, at 6:30 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > Bill Gates:"64K is more than enough RAM" > > "more resolution is always better to have" :jco
Very true. And in three or four years, when the current 645D is selling for less then $2000, I'll buy one. Paul > -- > J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) > Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paul > stenquist > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:59 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way > > > > On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:40 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > >> why do I want a Pentax FF DSLR? One of the reasons >> would be those big wide viewfinders like on the >> MX. wow those look great compared to the tunnel >> vision viewfinders found on aps-C DSLRs. The other >> reason would be higher system resolution and or >> lower noise compared to aps-c system >> -- > The K-r viewfinder isn't as wide as the MX -- which is too wide for some -- > but it's the equal of many film cameras. In terms of noise, it does better > at high ISO than most 24 x 36 DSLRs, and with 16.4 megapixels, it's very > competitive in resolution. I don't need full frame. Paul > >> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Steven Desjardins >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >> >> >> We are just seeing the overlap of film stuff and digital sensors. So >> many lenses were designed for the 35 mm format. We still use "medium >> format" even though the sensor isn't that size. Look at the 645D. The >> sensor isn't even close to 6 x4.5, but it was based on that body >> design. It will take years (if ever) for a more rational terminology >> to emerge, but as JCO points out we all know what it means. >> History-laden terminology has a certain charm for many and, it seems, >> especially photographers. >> >> I plan to start calling APS-C "the happy format" and see if it catches >> on. >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:59 PM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> no, the way the term "full frame" is actually >>> used in todays nomenclature is 24x36 sensor >>> and lenses. You can mean it to whatever you >>> want but its not anything but 24x36 at this >>> point in time technology wise. BTW, I want >>> Pentax to do a FF dslr, do you know what I >>> mean? I think you do. >>> >>> -- >>> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >>> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Paul Stenquist >>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:53 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >>> >>> >>> "Full frame" is a bit of silliness. It's irrelevant. Is a 645 camera >>> "double frame?" There are many sensor sizes. All of them are full. >>> Paul On Dec 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: >>> >>>> In my opinion, the modern DSLR usage of the term "full frame" means >>>> cameras and lenses designed for 24x36mm sensors. It doesn't mean all >>>> the various formats out there are full frame just because the lens >>>> fits and covers whatever non 24x36mm frame size is being used. Pentax >>>> DA lenses are not "full frame" lenses in the context of todays gear. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >>>> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >>>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>> Of Boris Liberman >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:00 AM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/19/2010 2:11 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >>>>> Then why worry about the lens frame? A lens designed for APS-C will >>>>> outperform one designed for 24 x 36. (They're both full frame. Just >>>>> different frames.) Paul >>>> >>>> I opine (may be wrong, but that's my right) that some 24x36 designed >>>> lenses outperform some 18x24 ones. In particular, some Sigma EX 24x36 >>>> lenses show impressive degree of correction of geometric distortions. >>>> For my kind of shooting it makes them particularly attractive given >>>> their price tag. >>>> >>>> You're however absolutely right that there are no "partial" frame >>>> lenses here. Unless of course, we're speaking of circular fish eyes >>>> /grin/. >>>> >>>> Boris >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>> and follow the directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>> and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Steve Desjardins >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
