I fondled the 645 just before I sold it a few months ago. The viewfinder on that is just so nice. I wonder if the 645D is similar. Maybe when I retire I buy a used one and hike through he national parks with it. 645D on a monopod. I bet you could kill bears with that thing.
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:44 PM, paul stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Dec 19, 2010, at 6:30 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > >> Bill Gates:"64K is more than enough RAM" >> >> "more resolution is always better to have" :jco > > Very true. And in three or four years, when the current 645D is selling for > less then $2000, I'll buy one. > Paul > >> -- >> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paul >> stenquist >> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:59 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >> >> >> >> On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:40 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: >> >>> why do I want a Pentax FF DSLR? One of the reasons >>> would be those big wide viewfinders like on the >>> MX. wow those look great compared to the tunnel >>> vision viewfinders found on aps-C DSLRs. The other >>> reason would be higher system resolution and or >>> lower noise compared to aps-c system >>> -- >> The K-r viewfinder isn't as wide as the MX -- which is too wide for some -- >> but it's the equal of many film cameras. In terms of noise, it does better >> at high ISO than most 24 x 36 DSLRs, and with 16.4 megapixels, it's very >> competitive in resolution. I don't need full frame. Paul >> >>> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >>> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Steven Desjardins >>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >>> >>> >>> We are just seeing the overlap of film stuff and digital sensors. So >>> many lenses were designed for the 35 mm format. We still use "medium >>> format" even though the sensor isn't that size. Look at the 645D. The >>> sensor isn't even close to 6 x4.5, but it was based on that body >>> design. It will take years (if ever) for a more rational terminology >>> to emerge, but as JCO points out we all know what it means. >>> History-laden terminology has a certain charm for many and, it seems, >>> especially photographers. >>> >>> I plan to start calling APS-C "the happy format" and see if it catches >>> on. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:59 PM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> no, the way the term "full frame" is actually >>>> used in todays nomenclature is 24x36 sensor >>>> and lenses. You can mean it to whatever you >>>> want but its not anything but 24x36 at this >>>> point in time technology wise. BTW, I want >>>> Pentax to do a FF dslr, do you know what I >>>> mean? I think you do. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >>>> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >>>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>> Of Paul Stenquist >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:53 PM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >>>> >>>> >>>> "Full frame" is a bit of silliness. It's irrelevant. Is a 645 camera >>>> "double frame?" There are many sensor sizes. All of them are full. >>>> Paul On Dec 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: >>>> >>>>> In my opinion, the modern DSLR usage of the term "full frame" means >>>>> cameras and lenses designed for 24x36mm sensors. It doesn't mean all >>>>> the various formats out there are full frame just because the lens >>>>> fits and covers whatever non 24x36mm frame size is being used. Pentax >>>>> DA lenses are not "full frame" lenses in the context of todays gear. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >>>>> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >>>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >>>>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>>> Of Boris Liberman >>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:00 AM >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> Subject: Re: New 12-35 lens on the way >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/19/2010 2:11 PM, paul stenquist wrote: >>>>>> Then why worry about the lens frame? A lens designed for APS-C will >>>>>> outperform one designed for 24 x 36. (They're both full frame. Just >>>>>> different frames.) Paul >>>>> >>>>> I opine (may be wrong, but that's my right) that some 24x36 designed >>>>> lenses outperform some 18x24 ones. In particular, some Sigma EX 24x36 >>>>> lenses show impressive degree of correction of geometric distortions. >>>>> For my kind of shooting it makes them particularly attractive given >>>>> their price tag. >>>>> >>>>> You're however absolutely right that there are no "partial" frame >>>>> lenses here. Unless of course, we're speaking of circular fish eyes >>>>> /grin/. >>>>> >>>>> Boris >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>> and follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>> and >>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Steve Desjardins >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
