On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:29 AM, John Francis wrote:

> Butter is an essential food group :-)
> One of the things calorie-counting points out is just how many of the
> calories come from pastry in things like a Beef Wellington, or a pie
> such as a Raised Pork Pie or a Veal Ham & Egg Pie.

Going by my "pie" recipe book, about 1/3rd of the mass of pastry is fat.  
According to my nutrition book, fat has just over double the calories per 
weight compared to either carbohydrate or protein.  So yes, pastry should 
definitely be eaten in moderation.

A good way to do this is to make it yourself.  It's just labour-intensive 
enough to make you think twice about having it.  It also teaches you what goes 
into it, and thus how bad it really is for you.  But it beats the store-bought 
stuff hands down.

I've been wanting to find one of those ornate fluted game-pie moulds but new 
ones are very expensive and I haven't found a second hand one yet.

Dave
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