On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:20 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> All I know about Indesign is that it is a part of an expensive Professional 
> software package. And I shoot Pentax and so have never felt that it was 
> appropriate to use Professional software.

All I know about it is that it is the alternate listed on blurb to their 
booksmart software, and I was able to get a copy very cheaply.

> However, I have designed or assisted in design of 6-8 Blurb books and thus 
> have thought about the process and encountered many of the pitfalls at least 
> once. So, some general comments. 
> 
> First, I think your black border around the swordfish is probably there on 
> many other pages as well. The other black lines just don't show up well on 
> the black backgrounds as it does on the yellow background of this page. It 
> looks as though the image is not filling the frame, and the black line is the 
> empty space.  

Except that when I move the image, so does the line.  I may be missing 
something because sometimes when I delete an image a rectangle with a cross 
stays behind.

> Most of your images are full-bleed. When they are presented opposite smaller 
> images (e.g., leaf and coiled rope near the front) the second page looks 
> unbalanced to me. It works well on your copyright and facing page, given the 
> use of text to balance and fill the gaps. {Meg and I get into this every time 
> we work on a book. She wants the image frames to be uniformly aligned 
> top-left, sometimes top-center; I generally prefer centering the image frames 
> on the page.)

There are some cases where I agree that it doesn't work well.  I'll see what I 
can do about them.
> 
> I understand the concept of "content balancing" the images on facing pages 
> and through successive pages in the book so that there is some unifying 
> "theme" but I think you over do it. E.g., with the two high-contrast shots of 
> eagle and of two dancers. I think I would have trouble examining and 
> appreciating the individual images because I would be processing the story 
> you are trying to tell by that juxtaposition. Particularly since only your 
> Dancer theme has more than two images to represent it. So my question is 
> whether you want these images to be appreciated in their own right, or is it 
> the theme's that matter? If Images is the answer, I would either scramble the 
> image positions somewhat so that the pairings are not so blatantly 
> in-your-face, or I would go with blank even pages. Which would eliminate the 
> issue of slightly different size images facing one another.

When I did the book last year, I struggled to keep it within 40 pages. This 
year I'm paying the 80 page price, and only have about 60 photos, so I can 
definitely spread things out a bit more

> 
> I don't know how the flow from Indesign to Blurb works, so the following may 
> or may not be an issue. But you've laid out a Copyright page that doesn't 
> look like Blurb's template in Booksmart and doesn't have comments about 
> Blurb. So when you flow your work into Blurb, will you wind up with a second 
> Title/Copyright page?

I don't think so, I think that they'll just add their logo page at the end.


> 
> stan
> 
> On Dec 22, 2011, at 5:16 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> First of all, let me say that when it comes to being intuitively obvious and 
>> easy to use indesign sucks.
>> 
>> I've managed to crunch through the worst of the issues and put together a 
>> first draft for the contents.  I still haven't done the cover.
>> 
>> I'd appreciate feedback, particularly if suggestions for what to do, are 
>> accompanied by how to do it.
>> For example, the photo of the swordfish sculpture is surrounded by a black 
>> line which I seem to be completely incapable of making go away.
>> None of the other pages, with a similar layout seem to have the same problem.
>> 
>> Likewise the lack of page numbers, titles or a table of contents can be 
>> attributed to either artistic simplicity, or the fact that I'm totally 
>> clueless about how to do so, and don't have a lot of time to waste trying to 
>> figure them out.
>> 
>> If you'd like to have a look, and tell me what I did right, or wrong, I put 
>> the pdf at:
>> http://red4est.com/lrc/books/lrc_2011_0.pdf
>> 
>> The more I do this, the more I admire and appreciate the job that Mark has 
>> done on the annual.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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