It's too good for the driveway. I use gas station coffee for that.

On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Rick Womer <[email protected]> wrote:

> It spills over into the next day unless you coat your driveway with it after 
> dinner...
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Stenquist <[email protected]>
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> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA
> 
> Coffee pot capacity ratings are very optimistic. A ten cup Mr. Coffee is good 
> for about three mugs worth. So a fifty cup rating is actually about 15 mugs 
> worth. Divide that by four coffee drinkers and you have three to four mugs 
> each. And sometimes it spills over into the next day. 
> 
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:53 PM, "[email protected]" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Fifty cups?!?
>> 
>> What, are you living in a breakaway Mormon polygamy commune?
>> 
>> 50 cups?
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
>> 
>> --- Original Message ---
>> 
>> From: Paul Stenquist <[email protected]>
>> Sent: April 21, 2013 4/21/13
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA
>> 
>> The same coffee beans are available all over the world. Beans from Africa, 
>> India, South America and various other places. You can buy them here in the 
>> U.S. and in Europe.  I've had expresso in Italy, France, New York. LA, 
>> Chicago, and Detroit. I've found that it varies most by who makes it rather 
>> than where one might be. I like espresso and have it from time to time, but 
>> I prefer American-style brewed coffee. I buy Columbian Supremo beans in bulk 
>> -- six pounds at a time -- and grind them in a burr grinder right before I 
>> use them. I never freeze them. I've read that is detrimental. Don't know if 
>> it's true. . (When I want to splurge I go to a specialty shop where I can 
>> get them fresh roasted.)  When I have time I make coffee in my Bodum french 
>> press. It's rich and robust. But I live in a house of coffee drinkers, so 
>> most often I make 50 cups in a commercial restaurant-style percolator. That 
>> lasts almost all day. It's more than adequate. I'm not big on
> lattes and the like. The world is full of coffee snobs. And BS.
>> 
>> Paul
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Igor Roshchin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Brian:
>>> 
>>> Beware that the roasts that are typically used for espresso and
>>> derivatives is very different from that in Europe, and I'd say from what
>>> I had in Sidney (although, probably to a lesser extent).
>>> After trips to France or Italy, for some 2-4 weeks, I couldn't drink
>>> esperesso back in the US.
>>> 
>>> Once, I asked the owner of the coffee cart that had nice coffee
>>> (compared to what you have in the US) about that difference. She told me 
>>> that a bunch of people had asked her (it was on UCSD campus, so there were
>>> many people from Europe or who had travelled to Europe). They tried to
>>> look for a supplier of a "european-style roast", but it would have been
>>> prohibitively expensive for them to use that coffee, so they never did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bipin:
>>> 
>>> Tastes are different, so I wouldn't try to convince you of anything
>>> different; I am just sharing my point of view.
>>> In my opinion, the ubiquitous Starbucks (in the US) provides
>>> mostly consistent average-to-mediocre quality of coffee and a bunch of
>>> sugary coffee-drinks. None of those drinks stand close to the quality of
>>> their European counter-parts found in Italy (and, at least for espresso,
>>> - in France). Typically, local, "moms-and-paps" coffee shops would
>>> provide better coffee (with a caveat of possible broader distribution 
>>> of quality).
>>> 
>>> I do not patronize Starbucks, unless it's a matter of survival (e.g. 
>>> need a pastry in lieu of breakfast at a scientific conference, and 
>>> there is nothing else at the convention center).
>>> One reason is the quality of coffee, but a more significant reason is
>>> their predatory practices. 
>>> 
>>> One example, I observed myself in San Diego downtown around 2005-2008.
>>> There was a very popular family-owned, coffee shop "Cafe Bassam" with a nice
>>> atmosphere http://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-bassam-san-diego .
>>> I've seen 3 Starbucks that were set up within 0-3 blocks from that one, 
>>> one being just across the street. It was pleasant to see that nearest
>>> Starbucks being rather empty on weekend nights, while Bassam was
>>> crowded. Then, Bassam was forced away to move out. (They still exist,
>>> but now in uptown.)
>>> The story I heard, albeit second hand was that when it was time for
>>> Bassam to renew the lease, Starbucks made an offer that was factor of
>>> "X" higher than what was the going rate (I don't know what that "X" was,
>>> but somebody said it was between 2 and 3.).
>>> Bassam couldn't afford that and had to find a new place.
>>> As far as I know Starbuck never even moved in that place.
>>> I moved from San Diego right around that time, so I don't know what 
>>> is there now. Actually, Google Maps street view shows not Startbucks there
>>> (corner of 4th and Market, 401 Market St, San Diego, CA 92101-6932)
>>> 
>>> Igor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sun Apr 21 14:04:11 EDT 2013
>>> Bipin Gupta wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello David, my wife and me had a "Hell of a Coffee time in our (3)
>>> week trip to Europe. By "Hell" we mean satan's hell.
>>> We were served luke warm coffee every where. We would tell the girls
>>> we wanted our coffee "piping hot".
>>> I don't think they understood "piping hot" at all - what a shame. So
>>> we would hunt around for "Starbucks", the American chain.
>>> Oh my what a relief. They understood "hot coffee", at last. And a
>>> "Small" cup at Starbucks was equal to a "Large" cup in most European
>>> coffee joints.
>>> And TEA in Europe is plain s***.
>>> I bet you will have lots of fun with coffee in the US, with coffee
>>> shops located every 25 meters on the streets. And you don't have to
>>> find good coffee; good coffee will find you.
>>> Regards.
>>> Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
>>> 
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