Fifty cups?!? What, are you living in a breakaway Mormon polygamy commune?
50 cups? ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> Sent: April 21, 2013 4/21/13 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT - Coffee terminology in the USA The same coffee beans are available all over the world. Beans from Africa, India, South America and various other places. You can buy them here in the U.S. and in Europe. I've had expresso in Italy, France, New York. LA, Chicago, and Detroit. I've found that it varies most by who makes it rather than where one might be. I like espresso and have it from time to time, but I prefer American-style brewed coffee. I buy Columbian Supremo beans in bulk -- six pounds at a time -- and grind them in a burr grinder right before I use them. I never freeze them. I've read that is detrimental. Don't know if it's true. . (When I want to splurge I go to a specialty shop where I can get them fresh roasted.) When I have time I make coffee in my Bodum french press. It's rich and robust. But I live in a house of coffee drinkers, so most often I make 50 cups in a commercial restaurant-style percolator. That lasts almost all day. It's more than adequate. I'm not big on lattes and the like. The world is full of coffee snobs. And BS. Paul On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Igor Roshchin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Brian: > > Beware that the roasts that are typically used for espresso and > derivatives is very different from that in Europe, and I'd say from what > I had in Sidney (although, probably to a lesser extent). > After trips to France or Italy, for some 2-4 weeks, I couldn't drink > esperesso back in the US. > > Once, I asked the owner of the coffee cart that had nice coffee > (compared to what you have in the US) about that difference. She told me > that a bunch of people had asked her (it was on UCSD campus, so there were > many people from Europe or who had travelled to Europe). They tried to > look for a supplier of a "european-style roast", but it would have been > prohibitively expensive for them to use that coffee, so they never did. > > > Bipin: > > Tastes are different, so I wouldn't try to convince you of anything > different; I am just sharing my point of view. > In my opinion, the ubiquitous Starbucks (in the US) provides > mostly consistent average-to-mediocre quality of coffee and a bunch of > sugary coffee-drinks. None of those drinks stand close to the quality of > their European counter-parts found in Italy (and, at least for espresso, > - in France). Typically, local, "moms-and-paps" coffee shops would > provide better coffee (with a caveat of possible broader distribution > of quality). > > I do not patronize Starbucks, unless it's a matter of survival (e.g. > need a pastry in lieu of breakfast at a scientific conference, and > there is nothing else at the convention center). > One reason is the quality of coffee, but a more significant reason is > their predatory practices. > > One example, I observed myself in San Diego downtown around 2005-2008. > There was a very popular family-owned, coffee shop "Cafe Bassam" with a nice > atmosphere http://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-bassam-san-diego . > I've seen 3 Starbucks that were set up within 0-3 blocks from that one, > one being just across the street. It was pleasant to see that nearest > Starbucks being rather empty on weekend nights, while Bassam was > crowded. Then, Bassam was forced away to move out. (They still exist, > but now in uptown.) > The story I heard, albeit second hand was that when it was time for > Bassam to renew the lease, Starbucks made an offer that was factor of > "X" higher than what was the going rate (I don't know what that "X" was, > but somebody said it was between 2 and 3.). > Bassam couldn't afford that and had to find a new place. > As far as I know Starbuck never even moved in that place. > I moved from San Diego right around that time, so I don't know what > is there now. Actually, Google Maps street view shows not Startbucks there > (corner of 4th and Market, 401 Market St, San Diego, CA 92101-6932) > > Igor > > > > Sun Apr 21 14:04:11 EDT 2013 > Bipin Gupta wrote: > > Hello David, my wife and me had a "Hell of a Coffee time in our (3) > week trip to Europe. By "Hell" we mean satan's hell. > We were served luke warm coffee every where. We would tell the girls > we wanted our coffee "piping hot". > I don't think they understood "piping hot" at all - what a shame. So > we would hunt around for "Starbucks", the American chain. > Oh my what a relief. They understood "hot coffee", at last. And a > "Small" cup at Starbucks was equal to a "Large" cup in most European > coffee joints. > And TEA in Europe is plain s***. > I bet you will have lots of fun with coffee in the US, with coffee > shops located every 25 meters on the streets. And you don't have to > find good coffee; good coffee will find you. > Regards. > Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pd -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
