I agree. I think an uncrippled mount would be the best thing in the
world for a full frame camera. Its the only thing I asked for really.
Even nikon supports at least AI lenses and you can convert everything
previous to AI. I realize that only their pro oriented cameras are
uncrippled, but still they at least provide backwards compatibility.
An uncrippled mount wouldn't cost that much to produce I don't think.
It does add to the complexity. So when's that full frame coming out
again? ;)

If I had to adapt glass and lost the ability to stop down
automatically, it would indeed suck pretty hard, but wouldn't be all
that different from using takumars on DSLRs. For a lot of what I
shoot, it wouldn't matter. Just another thing to slow me down.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 4:25 PM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote:
> Which is the argument for the "thing that shall not be mentioned."  It would
> make using K and M glass about as easy to use as A glass is now.  Which is
> to say, no more difficult that it was to use when those lenses were first
> manufactured.  I remember when I bought my MX, my second or third accessory
> was a genuine M42 to K adapter.  I think I used my M42 mount lenses on that
> camera a few times, but mostly I used them on the Spotmatic until in a fit
> of simplification frenzy I sold it, cheaply, just to get rid of it.
>
>
>
> On 7/20/2013 1:38 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>> On 19/07/2013 2:01 PM, Tom C wrote:
>>>
>>> I also agree that the legacy lens advantage is pretty much non-existent.
>>
>>
>> It's interesting that you should say that, and kind of ironic in a way.
>> The reason why legacy lenses are not an advantage is because they are less
>> convenient to use (manual focus, green button kludge, etc), and yet people
>> happily go out and buy adapters to put legacy lenses onto their cameras from
>> other brands. Look at the number of adapters you can get to put legacy glass
>> onto 4/3 cameras. I suspect that every brand ever made can now be mounted to
>> a 4/3 camera via an adapter.
>> I bought an adapter to allow mounting K-mount glass onto my Q, and, being
>> the not so bright person that I am, did exactly the same thing when I bought
>> my Fuji.
>> And you know what? It's a pain in the ass. Sure, the thing mounts, and you
>> can take a picture with it if you want to go to the effort, but why bother?
>> I could almost see it if you had a bunch of Canon FD lenses around, as it
>> would be a way to put them to use again, since Canon decided their user base
>> was a liability in the mid 1980s and abandoned them, but really, if you have
>> an ability to mount the lens to a camera that it is compatible with, just
>> mount it to that camera. Putting an A series lens onto my K5 means I lose a
>> bit of functionality, mounting it onto my Fuji or my Q takes me from
>> functionality loss to wanting to slash my wrists to make the misery go away.
>> Even using an older non A series lens on the K5 is easier than on the Fuji
>> or Q.
>>
>> I would say that as long as there is a market for adapters to mix and
>> match brands of lenses onto other makers' cameras, the advantage of legacy
>> lenses exists to a reasonable extent, though it won't be apparent to a new
>> user who just bought his first DSLR and kit lens.
>>
>> bill
>>
>>
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