>>> Notice the trend of so many to say what they have is 'good enough'?
>>> Pentax loses. Notice the trend of so many to wait a year or more until
>>> there's massive price cuts on the newest model Pentax camera? Pentax
>>> loses. Notice the trend of so many to purchase used gear as opposed to
>>> new? Pentax loses. Then there's those that put there money elsewhere
>>> because they're not getting what they want from Pentax. Pentax loses.
>>> There's nothing wrong with any of those actions and all are
>>> justifiable. Still - Pentax loses.
>>>
> IMO - every other camera manufacturer has to deal with those exact same
> issues, and to be honest I don't think that they are limiting factors. I
> just checked on ebay - there are over twice as many used Nikon and Canon
> lenses there then Pentax. I didn't check bodies but I assume there are a
> lot more used DSLR's of those brands simply because there has been a
> more active upgrade path. The more people upgrade the more used bodies
> there are for the bargain hunters. And Pentax (sadly) does not have to
> deal with the "problem" of Sigma, Tamron, and TOkina making lenses that
> compete with them - though I wish Sigma would kick out a few of their
> macro lenses in the K Mount.
>
> A robust used market is the sign of a healthy brand, IMO. But a brand
> that tries to live off its used market is in trouble. Back in the 90's
> the buzzword with Pentax was that there was this huge vast reserve of
> used lenses and since there was great backwards compatibility with
> Pentax you could tap into those old lenses. It was a bargain hunter's
> brand.  It was a great argument at the time given that Canon and Nikon
> had respectively scrapped or significantly modified their lens mount  a
> few years earlier. And even though I supect that at this very moment
> some dim-witted blogger cum photo gear reviewer is repeating that line
> about Pentax, Pentax's legacy glass advantage has largely faded. Canon
> and Nikon have a couple decades of used gear compatible with their
> systems now, and their used market is better than Pentax's, and if you
> are a bargain hunter you would be better off trolling in their waters
> and not Pentax's.
>
> I don't know how the Pentax brand will be resurrected but I keep hoping
> that Ricoh has a plan...
>
> Mark

I meant to respond earlier Mark. I agree that every camera mfr. has to
cope with somewhat the same issues, in regard to a certain percentage
of potential customers waiting for price drops... or potential
customers buying used instead of new.

Without checking my figures, I'm sure I'm not wrong in stating that
N/C have 70% of the DSLR market. Pentax has at best 5%, and I suspect
less. Unfortunately it's a tough uphill climb... and even I, when
purchasing the PZ-1p, looked at upgrade paths. I went with Pentax
because I simply was too cheap to spend an additional $800 for a Nikon
8008s with an add-on flash. I thought I'd use my manual focus lenses
on it. That was next to never. I thought I'd follow an upgrade path to
a 6x7. I did, at the same time as I bought the *ist D. That was
foolish... :)

I also agree that the legacy lens advantage is pretty much non-existent.

Tom C

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