> On 06 March 2016 at 17:40 Darren Addy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I tend to agree with you Mike.
> With the prices at places like sharpprints.com I find it hard to
> justify the expense of an inkjet. In many cases you are going to have
> to gamble on $100 or more for a set of ink just to see what you've
> got. I'm in that position right now with an old Epson R800. It was
> given to me and I assume there will be heads clogged (which is why I'm
> researching). I'm mostly interested in using it to print on overhead
> transparency material to make digital negatives for contact
> printing/alternative processing. I think I remember seeing a process
> that will allow you to use only three black/grey inks (that you can
> put in any three working positions on your printer (forget the clogged
> ones)... so may try that approach if I can't get all of them
> unplugged.

That sounds interesting.  I've used laser printed ones to make negs for
cyanotypes.  Keeping us informed of progress would be appreciated, at least by
me.

> 
> If I can learn the transparency digital negative technique, I might
> think about a wide format printer for the same purpose, down the road.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, mike wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used R2400. I
> >> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view of
> >> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
> >> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the print
> >> head.
> >>
> >> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
> >> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is ingenious.
> >> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head cleaner:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
> >>
> >> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain out
> >> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you purchase
> >> it.
> >
> > I can only go by my own experience.  Two very expensive printers (and a
> > cheaper
> > one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would not clear.
> >  Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet knowledge to
> > try
> > a number of different options.  No success.  Finally, for the last machine,
> > I
> > found a recently damaged one that had a good head.  Over a week, I swapped
> > the
> > head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing the
> > printer if
> > you access the head.  This can only be fixed by some firmware kludge that
> > only
> > Epson engineers know.  I couldn't find it on the internet.  So I then had
> > the
> > choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to replace the head
> > (no
> > nearby agent, of course) or walking away.  It was one of the best walks of
> > my
> > life.
> >
> > In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of the devil and
> > the
> > fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a miracle.
> >
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