On 3/7/2016 4:03 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:
I remember ordering cibachromes with longer lifetime expectancy than myself.
that long huh? ;-)
I have proabably 100 cibrachromes or so that I did myself in the 1970's
and early 80's I learned that process before I learned BW developing.
But a lot of
those prints are scratched and quite a few are not such goodies.
a
These days I have less delusions about the legacy factor of my images. :-D
Jostein
Den 7. mars 2016 08.23.18 CET, skrev mike wilson <[email protected]>:
As we're having an opinion-fest......
My experience has been that inkjet prints are much easier to produce to
an (at
least) adequate level of quality. I would guess that the effort
required to
produce the equivalent of a highest-grade optical print is less than an
order of
magnitude different. The really big difference is when multiple copies
of a
print are required.
The jury is still out on equivalence of durability, although modern
inkjets are
likely to be better than early mass-printing colour processes.
On 06 March 2016 at 20:53 John <[email protected]> wrote:
Costco offer a number of different print options, but you can still
get
RA4 C-prints up to 12x18 (and if the operator knows what he's doing
12x36 panos).
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You think inkjet prints
are
better. I don't.
On 3/6/2016 2:48 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Costco prints are inkjet. Most stores print on Epson 7880. Some are
Noritsu. Not many shops print optically any more. In my opinion,
inkjet are better.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2016, at 2:11 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/6/2016 12:30 PM, mike wilson wrote:
On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy <[email protected]>
wrote:
This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used
R2400. I
agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view
of
"Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is
guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the
print
head.
I like (much better) this guy's tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M
His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is
ingenious.
Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head
cleaner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM
With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain
out
there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you
purchase
it.
I can only go by my own experience. Two very expensive printers
(and a
cheaper
one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would
not clear.
Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet
knowledge
to try
a number of different options. No success. Finally, for the
last
machine, I
found a recently damaged one that had a good head. Over a week,
I swapped
the
head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing
the
printer if
you access the head. This can only be fixed by some firmware
kludge that
only
Epson engineers know. I couldn't find it on the internet. So I
then had
the
choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to
replace the
head (no
nearby agent, of course) or walking away. It was one of the best
walks of
my
life.
In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of
the devil
and the
fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a
miracle.
I think it depends on the volume of prints. If you're printing
EVERY
day, they might make sense. I don't, and anyway, I'm not a fan of
ink-jet prints.
I like prints from the RA4 process (aka C-prints). For the few
items I
feel like printing, it makes sense to send them out.
Fortunately, for anything up to 12x18, I don't think Costco can be
beat.
Plus, I live near one of the Costco stores where the operator
knows how
to print 12x36 panos. Not all of them do.
And any time I want to go larger than 12x18 there are a couple of
"pro
labs" locally.
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