I remember ordering cibachromes with longer lifetime expectancy than myself. These days I have less delusions about the legacy factor of my images. :-D Jostein
Den 7. mars 2016 08.23.18 CET, skrev mike wilson <[email protected]>: >As we're having an opinion-fest...... > >My experience has been that inkjet prints are much easier to produce to >an (at >least) adequate level of quality. I would guess that the effort >required to >produce the equivalent of a highest-grade optical print is less than an >order of >magnitude different. The really big difference is when multiple copies >of a >print are required. > >The jury is still out on equivalence of durability, although modern >inkjets are >likely to be better than early mass-printing colour processes. > >> On 06 March 2016 at 20:53 John <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Costco offer a number of different print options, but you can still >get >> RA4 C-prints up to 12x18 (and if the operator knows what he's doing >> 12x36 panos). >> >> Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You think inkjet prints >are >> better. I don't. >> >> On 3/6/2016 2:48 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> > Costco prints are inkjet. Most stores print on Epson 7880. Some are >> > Noritsu. Not many shops print optically any more. In my opinion, >> > inkjet are better. >> > >> > Paul >> >> On Mar 6, 2016, at 2:11 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/6/2016 12:30 PM, mike wilson wrote: >> >>>> On 06 March 2016 at 01:08 Darren Addy <[email protected]> >wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> This is a side discussion to Ann's purchase of a lightly used >R2400. I >> >>>> agreed with Mike Wilson's caution, but not necessarily his view >of >> >>>> "Irrecoverably". Using Epson's print head cleaning utility is >> >>>> guaranteed to use up a lot of ink, if not actually unclog the >print >> >>>> head. >> >>>> >> >>>> I like (much better) this guy's tutorial: >> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1hxljJhi9M >> >>>> His use of aquarium pump tubing as a reservoir/sight glass is >ingenious. >> >>>> Also worthwhile is his formula for DIY Inkjet print head >cleaner: >> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHUQAZFdTOM >> >>>> >> >>>> With these techniques in your pocket you may find a real bargain >out >> >>>> there, even if the printer doesn't work perfectly when you >purchase >> >>>> it. >> >>> >> >>> I can only go by my own experience. Two very expensive printers >(and a >> >>> cheaper >> >>> one) failed due to head clogging that Epson's procedures would >not clear. >> >>> Having access to a large variety of chemicals, I used internet >knowledge >> >>> to try >> >>> a number of different options. No success. Finally, for the >last >> >>> machine, I >> >>> found a recently damaged one that had a good head. Over a week, >I swapped >> >>> the >> >>> head only to find that Epson has the neat little trick of killing >the >> >>> printer if >> >>> you access the head. This can only be fixed by some firmware >kludge that >> >>> only >> >>> Epson engineers know. I couldn't find it on the internet. So I >then had >> >>> the >> >>> choice of paying about 2/3rds of the new cost for Epson to >replace the >> >>> head (no >> >>> nearby agent, of course) or walking away. It was one of the best >walks of >> >>> my >> >>> life. >> >>> >> >>> In my ever so humble opinion, inkjet printers are the spawn of >the devil >> >>> and the >> >>> fact that they print anything at all is nothing short of a >miracle. >> >>> >> >> >> >> I think it depends on the volume of prints. If you're printing >EVERY >> >> day, they might make sense. I don't, and anyway, I'm not a fan of >> >> ink-jet prints. >> >> >> >> I like prints from the RA4 process (aka C-prints). For the few >items I >> >> feel like printing, it makes sense to send them out. >> >> >> >> Fortunately, for anything up to 12x18, I don't think Costco can be >beat. >> >> Plus, I live near one of the Costco stores where the operator >knows how >> >> to print 12x36 panos. Not all of them do. >> >> >> >> And any time I want to go larger than 12x18 there are a couple of >"pro >> >> labs" locally. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >> >> Religion - Answers we must never question. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and >> >> follow the directions. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >> Religion - Answers we must never question. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and follow >> the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
