That said, I will make a special effort to be nice, in the spirit of the 
season. I have been angry at the world in general for quite some time and need 
to take a deep breath and reset.

Paul


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> My response quite obviously wasn't in regard to the problem or it's solution 
> but rather to the crude disparagement of the companies that my city's economy 
> depends on. I consider facts important. Real data preempts misinformation. My 
> words may have been slight aggressive. His were ugly and obscene.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Jostein Øksne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Gee, what a way to respond to a person who is glad to have his problem 
>> solved...
>> Jostein 
>> 
>> Den 16. desember 2016 00.43.19 CET, skrev Paul Stenquist 
>> <[email protected]>:
>>> The frigid temperatures you have to live with have evidently led to
>>> confused thinking. One person’s experience is no substitute for data.
>>> I’m not a fan of any car company — I’ve worked for them all and they’ve
>>> all been tough clients at times. But I don’t like bullshit. Here are
>>> some hard facts about dependability gleaned from the experience of
>>> many: 
>>> http://www.jdpower.com/cars/awards/Vehicle-Dependability-Study-(VDS)-by-Category/843ENG
>>> 
>>> But if you like one owner experiences, I can tell you my 2014 Equinox
>>> has never required service in the three years I’ve owned it. Oh, and
>>> my’55 Chevy had never required service in the 16 years I’ve owned it.
>>> But that’s just one man’s experience, so like your experience with GM,
>>> it’s meaningless.
>>> 
>>> all
>>>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Bill <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/15/2016 10:36 AM, Gonz wrote:
>>>>> Yes, its possible that there is a short somewhere that is getting
>>> hot,
>>>>> but not in the right place to function as a block heater.  I would
>>>>> suspect that something else is going on, like maybe the oil
>>> viscosity
>>>>> is too high.  This would make it very difficult to start in cold
>>>>> weather.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We have an answer. The poor thing had to be towed to the dealership
>>> last night. They checked it over very thoroughly.
>>>> The block heater was functioning perfectly, the problem was, it
>>> hadn't been installed correctly at the Cummins factory, and when the
>>> engine had been installed it had fallen out.
>>>> So, they are getting me a new one.  Unfortunately, they are on back
>>> order.
>>>> They are also checking on the oil viscosity to see if a lighter oil
>>> might be needed.
>>>> Meanwhile, I have a 2017 Rogue, which is a cool little car.
>>>> If the block heater is going to take more than a few days to arrive,
>>> they have offered me another truck until mine is fixed.
>>>> This is why I have driven Nissans for a quarter century.
>>>> Any company looks good when things are going well, it's when the
>>> inevitable happens and something goes sideways that you see what kind
>>> of company they are.
>>>> When my self destructing Pontiac was going in for repairs every other
>>> day, GM blew me off.
>>>> Which is why friends don't let friends buy a GM vehicle.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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