On 12/15/2016 5:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
The frigid temperatures you have to live with have evidently led to
confused thinking. One person’s experience is no substitute for data.
I’m not a fan of any car company — I’ve worked for them all and
they’ve all been tough clients at times. But I don’t like bullshit.
Here are some hard facts about dependability gleaned from the
experience of many:
http://www.jdpower.com/cars/awards/Vehicle-Dependability-Study-(VDS)-by-Category/843ENG

 But if you like one owner experiences, I can tell you my 2014
Equinox has never required service in the three years I’ve owned it.
Oh, and my’55 Chevy had never required service in the 16 years I’ve
owned it. But that’s just one man’s experience, so like your
experience with GM, it’s meaningless.

My experience with GM (including cars owned by my parents):

19 something or ever Corvair.
I was pretty young, but I remember the car. Twenty years later my father still talked about what a pile of crap it was. Apparently it spent more time in the shop than on the road.
Enough said about that.

1962 Impala. At 70 miles per hour, it shook so badly it was impossible to drive.

1965 Olds F85 That one was a darned good car.

Late 1980s Cutlass Calais. Pushrod guides were drilled crooked, causing the tips of the rods to wear badly and quickly. They lasted until the engine was off warranty. We knurled the ends of them and sold the thing quickly.

1988 Pontiac Grand Am. Not bad for the first while. In fact, I think I gave it a high mark with JD Power. Unfortunately, 15 months in, it suffered an oil pump failure which ruined the engine, and it was never right after that. It failed again on a vacation in Utah, and very nearly caught fire/ exploded. After that, it was literally in the shop every other day for several months. It was probably the spawn of my dad's Corvair.

1995 Isuzu Trooper. Admittedly not a GM, but GM was in control of Isuzu in North America, and had put their own transmission into the thing. The tranny went south at around 45k km, and due to the shape of the tranny/bell housing, they had routed the exhaust so close to the starter that the heat fried starter motors annually.

Between the Pontiac and the Isuzu, we had a Nissan Axxess. It was not an especially good looking vehicle, but it was solid, reliable and bullet proof, and it took us places it had no business surviving through.

Four out of five vehicles that I had personal experience with were junk, and one that had GM components that only gave problems because of the GM components.

So pardon me Mr. Knows Everything, but I have enough experience with the general to have a pretty solid opinion of the crap they put on the street.

When I started this thread, I didn't realize I was going to get into a pissing contest with a fuckfaced retard. Perhaps, Paul, you should stay the hell out of these things if you don't have anything smart to say.






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