# Re: Multiple takes of group photos (thinking out loud)

```I just do s composite. If someone’s eyes are closed in a take I like, I just
cut their head out of another shot and paste it in. With minimal photoshop
skills it’s easy to do a perfect job in a matter of minutes,```
```
Paul

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote:
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> Occasionally I am asked to take a group photo.
> Every time I am choosing the best (or even usable) photo from the set,
> I am struggling with finding one. The reason is that at any given moment
> someone takes less then the best pose, facial expression, ...
> So, you end up with one photo where it's better for one person, and another
> one for another person...
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> So, I've been thinking about some empirical formula for the number of photos
> I need to take to ensure I could choose one where everybody is OK.
> When I have 1 person, the first photo will be bad, so, I need to take an
> extra (or two). So,
> for 1 person:  1+1 (or 1+2) photos.
> For 2 people I will have about two bad ones (one for each), so, 2+1 (or 2+2).
> ...
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> One might think that for N people, I'd need N+1 (or N+2)...
> But that's wrong, because in addition to everybody having individual bad
> moments, I will have a combination of bad poses in more then one person,
> plus, people getting distracted when the crowd grows close to 10 and above.
> The deduction and combinatorics does not seem to work well here, but I
> suspect that statistically, I'd need N^2+1 or even N!+1  (where
> N!=1*2*3*...*N) to optimize the probability of finding one photo where
> everybody looks fine.
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> Ghm...
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> Igor
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