True, I haven't used your cameras. :-) I was speaking from experience with a ZX-5n, ZX-M, Super Programs, P30t and P3n (I've haven't had a battery failure on my ME Super or 2 ME's). The ZX's and Super Programs have always let me shoot 1-2 rolls after first indication of battery low. But this may be more of a difference in shooting style. I usually shoot somewhat deliberately, perhaps giving the battery time to "recover" between shots. This doesn't sound like what you were doing with the children's portrait place.
If I were doing a lot of "heavy" shooting, I would try to establish a mean time between failure for a battery set and change at 80% of that. William in Utah Nick Wright wrote: > > You've never used my cameras then. My pz1p gives little warning, like > minutes or less. If I've waited for the battery warning to come on, then > I've waited too long. I'll usually only get a few extra frames before it > craps out. It was the same thing with the Pentax 645 that I used while > working for the children's portrait outfit. I've learned to listen to the > motor drive of my camera, when I hear it getting sluggish it's time to throw > in another battery. > > BTW, there is a modern camera with manual film rewind... The Nikon F5. > > Nick Wright > > ---------- > >From: "William Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Shutters on New Cameras > >Date: Fri, May 31, 2002, 1:22 PM > > > > > That's a good point, Ann, but every battery operated SLR camera I've > > used will give at least *some* warning that the batteries are about to > > crap out. I've never seen a situation where one shot goes fine, and > > then, without warning, the camera is dead because of batteries. I know > > that I've always been able to at least finish the roll of film that's in > > the camera. > > > > William in Utah. > > > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > >> > >> Leon, carrying a spare battery is one thing. Being in the middle of shooting > >> something > >> ephemeral and having to stop and (1) dig out the battery, (2) change it to > take > >> another > >> picture when the one in the camera dies is another. Not to mention being > able > >> to use > >> the camera under extreme weather conditions. > >> > >> It really seems that they should be able to design and produce a "modern" > camera > >> that > >> you can, at the very least, remove the film from if the battery dies. But of > >> coruse, if > >> it worked without a battery, some battery mfgs wouldn't make quite so much > >> money, eh? > >> > >> annsan > >> > >> Leon Altoff wrote: > >> > >> > On Fri, 31 May 2002 20:02:31 +1000, Bob Rapp wrote: > >> > > >> > >> Do any of the newer autofocus cameras, like the MZ-5n, ZX-7, M-S offer > >> > >> mechanical shutter speeds along the lines of the LX ox ME-S, or are they > >> > >> completely unusable when the batteries die? > >> > >> -- > >> > > If it doesn't have a manual film advance, it is totally useless! I have > NO > >> > >totally useless cameras.<grin> > >> > > >> > If it doesn't have film then it's useless. If I can remember to pack a > >> > roll of film I can remember to pack a spare battery. It all comes down > >> > to taking what you need. The original cameras were no good if you > >> > didn't take along your darkroom tent so you could develop the glass > >> > plate right away. Even a solar charged digital camera is no good > >> > without a computer or printer to download the pictures to every once in > >> > a while. > >> > > >> > Leon > >> > > >> > http://www.bluering.org.au > >> > http://www.bluering.org.au/leon > >> > - > >> > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >> > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >> > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > >> - > >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .