Edwina, yes, I think we all know that you "use the Peircean term of 'representamen' for this mediate sign...rather than sign" - and that Peirce himself often used the term "sign" for representamen, as I did in part of my post.
Speaking of relations, one specific point about relations in semiosis is that *a relation can be the object of a sign*. This is crucial to our comprehension of the dicisign, as we'll see when we get into Chapter 3. gary f. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Awbrey [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 2-Sep-14 10:55 AM Edwina, Setting terminology aside for just a moment, there is at present a general lack of understanding as to what constitutes (1) a relation, (2) a triadic relation, (3) a triadic sign relation. Those subjects are treated by Peirce in his logic of relative terms and the corresponding mathematics of relations, all of which is clear enough in his early papers. Without a grasp of that background, most of what he writes later is doomed to be mis-interpreted. Jon Edwina Taborsky wrote: > Gary F - thanks for this introduction. > > I think it's important to clarify that, first, the interactions between the sign and the object; and the sign and the interpretant, are relations - my use of this term has prompted serious criticism on the Peirce list! I continue to use the Peircean term of 'representamen' for this mediate sign...rather than sign. I confine the term 'sign' to the full triad of object-representamen-interpretant. > > And I think it's important to acknowledge that there are nine such relations available to semiosis - not just the three of icon, index and symbol - which refer anyway, only to the relation of the representamen to the object and ignore the other two vital semiosic processes of the representamen-in-itself and the relation to the interpretant. > > Edwina -- academia: http://independent.academia.edu/JonAwbrey my word press blog: http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/ inquiry list: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ isw: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/JLA oeiswiki: http://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/JonnyCache
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