Re: Frederik Stjernfelt
At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/13959

Dear Frederik,

On that note of partial congruity I think I'll give us both a well-deserved day of rest. I hope you won't exhaust all yours trying to cure the Saussure Syndrome on the bi-semiotics list, but maybe you are stronger than I for a' that.

Das Beste,

Jon

Frederik Stjernfelt wrote:
Dear Jon, list
I think we mostly agree here.
To a certain degree, Peirce's doctrine of propositions is a version of IDOL as 
you call it, and a strong one at that. Peirce exactly celebrated his 
Existential Graphs for their iconic properties.
But it is very local version of IDOL only - an icon only goes as far as it 
goes, as you indicate. And no icon gets us anywere without the accompaniment of 
indices and symbols.
Best
F

Den 06/09/2014 kl. 04.40 skrev Jon Awbrey 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:

Re: Frederik Stjernfelt
At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/13901

Exactly.

And this is one of those places where we have to watch out for the possibility of a backward step, 
where it is very tempting to fall back on the "Mirror Of Nature Theory Of Science" 
(MONTOS) and the "Iconic Doctrine Of Language" (IDOL).  ;)

The diagrammatic and dynamic qualities of Peirce's logic, as epitomized in the 
entitative and existential interpretations of his logical graphs, were chief 
among the features that drew me to explore his logical systems from the very 
beginning of my studies.  But analogies and icons all break in time, at one 
point or another, and it is only their embedding in a more fluid and robust 
symbolic matrix that makes it possible for us to use them where they fit and to 
set them aside when they fail.

Regards,

Jon


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