Jon, I think it would be better if you would combine the quotes from NP and your comments in a single message. It would also be better if you (and everyone) would send posts only to the list(s), i.e. delete the addresses of individuals from your address field before you send, as that would avoid unnecessary duplication to those individuals, who will all get the post from the list(s) anyway.
gary f. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Awbrey [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24-Sep-14 1:36 PM To: Frederik Stjernfelt Cc: [email protected]; Gary Fuhrman; Gary Richmond; Benjamin Udell Subject: Re: Natural Propositions . Selected Passages Peircers, Here is the first passage I wanted to single out for further reflection, from "3.2. The Extension of the Dicisign Concept". I have broken out the separate points of the long paragraph to facilitate study and discussion. As always, please let me know if you find any typos in my transcription from the book. <quote> This more general doctrine of Dicisigns has several important merits. First, it allows for the consideration of the role played by Dicisigns in pre-human cognition and communication in biology - and thus to envisage an evolutionary account for the development of propositions from very simple biological versions of quasi-propositions and to the much more explicit, articulated, nested, and varied propositions in human cognition and communication. Second, it allows for the investigation of a broad range of human Dicisigns which do not involve language - or which only partially involve language. This makes possible the study of how pictures, diagrams, gestures, movies, etc. may constitute propositions or participate in propositions - highlighting how non-linguistic signs may facilitate reasoning and appear in speech acts taken in a wider sense, including what could be called picture acts. Third, it connects propositions closely to perception, cf. Peirce's doctrine of "perceptual judgments" realized in the act of perception. Fourth, Peirce's functional definition of Dicisigns liberates them from the idea that conscious intentions, "propositional stances", and the like form an indispensable presupposition for propositions to appear. And fifth, it embeds Dicisigns and their development in a social setting, Peirce taking the step from proposition to proposition in thought to be dialogical and to presuppose the knowledge of a Universe of Discourse shared among dialogue participants. This further allows for a plasticity of interpretation of Dicisigns, relative to the Universe of Discourse in which they partake. This radical extension of Dicisigns, embracing animal sign use on the one hand and non-linguistic human semiotics, perception and dialogical reasoning on the other, does not come without problems, though. The Dicisigns at stake here may appear more implicit, indirect, and vague as compared to the explicitness of declarative sentences in the indicative, expressed in human language, ordinary or formalized, and thus form a notion of propositions which is, in important respects, deflated. </quote> (Frederik Stjernfelt, ''Natural Propositions'', p. 52) -- academia: http://independent.academia.edu/JonAwbrey my word press blog: http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/ inquiry list: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ isw: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/JLA oeiswiki: http://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/JonnyCache
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