Ben, List,

I think it was Herbert Simon who I first recall lumping
engineering under the heading of the “design sciences”
but I don't know if that usage was original with him.

Coincidentally, again, if you believe in such things,
I've been reviewing a number of old discussions on the
Peirce List in preparation for getting back to my study
of Peirce's 1870 Logic of Relatives and there are a few
places where the exchanges with Bernard Morand branched
off onto the classification of signs.

Here is the initial exchange:

http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Talk:Peirce%27s_1870_Logic_Of_Relatives#Discussion_Note_10

Bernard gives his Table of the “Ten Divisions of Signs” here:

http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Talk:Peirce%27s_1870_Logic_Of_Relatives#Discussion_Note_13

Most of you know this is not really my thing — I prefer
to think of these taxonomies or typologies as detailing
the “Aspects or Modes of Sign Functionality” as opposed
to mutually exclusive and exhaustive ontologies of signs.
So I just submit them FWIWTWIMC ...

Regards,

Jon

On 3/2/2017 3:15 PM, Benjamin Udell wrote:
Jon S., list,

I just remembered that Bernard Morand, now retired, of Institut Universitaire 
de Technologie (France), Département
Informatique, who used to be quite active on peirce-l, wrote a book published 
in 2004 _Logique de la Conception: Figures
de sémiotique générale d'après Charles S. Peirce _ [Logic of Design: 
Illustrations of General Semiotic After Charles S.
Peirce] http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/pastbooks.htm#morand 
<http://www.iupui.edu/%7Earisbe/pastbooks.htm#morand> .

In 2004 I had no idea that it was about design, I didn't know that the French 
word _/conception/_ can simply mean
"design." A few years ago I got him to agree to translate into English its 
foreword which was available gratis online.
The English translation of the foreword is at
http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/menu/library/aboutcsp/morand/conception-fwd.htm
<http://www.iupui.edu/%7Earisbe/menu/library/aboutcsp/morand/conception-fwd.htm>
 .

He once provided us with this image of Peirce's diagram of the three sign 
trichotomies:
http://lyris.ttu.edu/read/attachment/220287/2-2/moz-screenshot-1.jpg
which now adorns the top of the Peirce Blog http://csp3.blogspot.com/

In his 2004 book, he makes an argument for the ordering of the ten 
sign-trichotomies as:
3-2-1-4-10-9-8-7-6-5

He discussed it at peirce-l in "Re: Symbol vs. iconized index" 2008-10-27 
16:23:57
http://lyris.ttu.edu/read/messages?id=2105468#2105468

Here's a diagram that I made showing his view:
http://lyris.ttu.edu/read/attachment/2111107/2/10ad3.GIF

Best, Ben


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