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Ben, Jon, all ...
Getting whelmed over by the garden of forking paths now and
long ago lost the ability to jump on my horse and ride off
in all directions at once, so I'll just take this one off
the top and try to work backward.
In practice the idea of satificing functioned more as a heuristic strategy,
not unlike Polya's mental maneuvers, and it often served as a psychological
jog or nudge for getting unstuck from the mires of perfectionism that often
block inquiry.
Regards,
Jon
On 3/2/2017 6:55 PM, Benjamin Udell wrote:
Jon S., list,
As far as I can tell, satisficing is just a third way between optimization and
bare-minimum constraint satisfaction (any
feasible solution). Same forest of decision-making and trade-offs; different
tree.
Herbert Simon: "...decision makers can satisfice either by finding optimum
solutions for a simplified world, or by
finding satisfactory solutions for a more realistic world. Neither approach, in
general, dominates the other, and both
have continued to co-exist in the world of management science." Even the
general statement is of a setting for trade-offs.
Best, Ben
On 3/2/2017 4:52 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:
Jon A., List:
It was also Herbert Simon who (rightly, in my view) observed that design in
general, and engineering in particular, is
a matter of satisficing rather than optimization--"good enough" rather than "best
possible."
Regards,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
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On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Jon Awbrey <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ben, List,
I think it was Herbert Simon who I first recall lumping
engineering under the heading of the “design sciences”
but I don't know if that usage was original with him.
Coincidentally, again, if you believe in such things,
I've been reviewing a number of old discussions on the
Peirce List in preparation for getting back to my study
of Peirce's 1870 Logic of Relatives and there are a few
places where the exchanges with Bernard Morand branched
off onto the classification of signs.
Here is the initial exchange:
http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Talk:Peirce%27s_1870_Logic_Of_Relatives#Discussion_Note_10
<http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Talk:Peirce%27s_1870_Logic_Of_Relatives#Discussion_Note_10>
Bernard gives his Table of the “Ten Divisions of Signs” here:
http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Talk:Peirce%27s_1870_Logic_Of_Relatives#Discussion_Note_13
<http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Talk:Peirce%27s_1870_Logic_Of_Relatives#Discussion_Note_13>
Most of you know this is not really my thing — I prefer
to think of these taxonomies or typologies as detailing
the “Aspects or Modes of Sign Functionality” as opposed
to mutually exclusive and exhaustive ontologies of signs.
So I just submit them FWIWTWIMC ...
Regards,
Jon
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