Jon, list,

According to the OED, to posit (transitive) is “To put forward or assume as 
fact or as a basis for argument, to presuppose; to postulate; to affirm the 
existence of.” To me that is quite different from proposing a hypothesis to be 
tested inductively. In the text below, he first considers the possibility that 
all elements of the Phaneron should be triads. (Notice, by the way, that he 
calls this a “subjective possibility,” a term that will play a key role in the 
‘turning point’ text which this thread is leading up to.) He then applies a 
priori reasoning, specifically a reductio ad absurdum, to add the possibility 
of Secundans and Primans to the hypothesis, and finally to eliminate the 
possibility of an indecomposable Tetrad. Only then is ready to begin testing 
the hypothesis by “actual examination of the contents of the Phaneron.”

We all know, of course, that Peirce had arrived at his triad of Universal 
Categories long before 1905. But he is unwilling to apply this a priori triad 
to the elements of the phaneron without asking the reader to think it through 
for himself and thus to see why we should expect to find three indecomposable 
elements, no more and no less, in the phaneron. So he is giving us a guided 
tour through a reasoning process that leads to that conclusion; and that 
process may differ in a number of ways from the process that led Peirce to that 
conclusion many years before.

Today I intended to continue with the text verbatim, but I may summarize it 
instead and move on to the next text in which the concept of valency plays a 
central role.

Gary f.

 

From: Jon Alan Schmidt <[email protected]> 
Sent: 27-Mar-19 16:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy and logic

 

Gary R., Gary F., List:

 

GR:  For Peirce the consequence of this "mental preparation" was his positing 
Three Universal Categories.

 

GF:  I don’t see that as an accurate description of what Peirce does in the 
text we are looking at. He is not “positing” anything there; rather, as he 
says, what he does is to “recommend that the hypothesis of the indecomposable 
elements of the Phaneron being in their general constitution like the chemical 
atoms be taken up as a hypothesis with a view to its being subjected to the 
test of an inductive inquiry.”

 

What is the difference between positing the three Categories (1ns/2ns/3ns) and 
recommending the hypothesis that there are three indecomposable elements of the 
Phaneron (Priman/Secundan/Tertian)?  It seems to me that those are just two 
different ways of saying the same thing, but maybe I am missing something, as 
admittedly tends to be the case when Peirce's Phenomenology is the topic of 
discussion.  However, as you might imagine, I am looking forward to seeing the 
"texts from early 1906, which Peirce himself flagged as representing a major 
shift in his thinking about Existential Graphs and their connection with his 
brand of pragmatism."

 

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA

 

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 2:13 PM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> wrote:

List, Gary R,

Continuing from where we left off (EP2:364), Peirce is still doing the 
abductive work of framing a hypothesis to be inductively tested by observation 
of the phaneron. This time I’ll continue his text up to the point where he says 
the work of observation can begin (EP2:366). After that I’ll try to address 
some of Gary R’s objections to my comments on this text. I do not recommend 
skipping or skimming over Peirce’s text to get to my comments, which are really 
nothing more than footnotes to what Peirce is saying here about phaneroscopy.

[[ So far as our study has now gone, then, it appears possible that all 
elements of the Phaneron should be triads. But an obvious principle which is as 
purely a priori as a principle well can be, since it is involved in the very 
idea of the Phaneron as containing constituents of which some are logically 
unanalyzable and others analyzable, promptly reduces that subjective 
possibility to an absurdity. I mean the principle that whatever is logically 
involved in an ingredient of the Phaneron is itself an ingredient of the 
Phaneron; for it is in the mind even though it be only implicitly so. Suppose 
then a Triad to be in the Phaneron. It connects three objects, A, B, C, however 
indefinite A, B, and C may be. There must, then, be one of the three, at least, 
say C, which establishes a relation between the other two, A and B. The result 
is that A and B are in a dyadic relation, and C may be ignored, even if it 
cannot be supposed absent. Now this dyadic relation between A and B, without 
reference to any third, involves a Secundan. In like manner, in order that 
there may be a Secundan, so that A and B are in some sense opposed, and neither 
is swallowed up in the other,—or even if only one of them had such an 
independent standing, it must be capable of being regarded as more or less 
determinate and positive in itself, and so involves Primanity. This Primanity 
supposes a Priman element; so that the suggestion that no elements should be 
Primans is absurd, as is the suggestion that no elements should be Secundans. 

This same principle may be applied in the same way to any Tetradic constituent 
of the Phaneron. But if we expect it to lead to an analogous conclusion we 
shall find ourselves out of that dead reckoning. Suppose a Tetrad in the 
Phaneron. Now just as the being of a Tertian consists precisely in its 
connecting the members of a triplet, so that two of them are united in the 
third, so the Quartanness of the tetrad will consist in its connecting the 
members of a quaternion, say A, B, C, D, and in nothing else. That is precisely 
its form. As the triad involves dyads, so likewise does the tetrad. Let A, B be 
the objects of such a dyad. The tetrad is more than a mere dyad for those 
objects. I mean that it not only makes one of them determine the other in some 
regard, after the manner of dyads, or,—to use the word which we are in the 
habit of using only in reference to the more characteristic kinds of dyads, but 
which I will extend for the nonce to all dyads, in order to call up my idea in 
the reader's mind,—the tetrad not only makes A to “act” upon B (or B upon A), 
but, like a triad, indeed as involving Tertianity (just as we have seen that a 
triad involves Secundanity), it puts together A and B, so that they make up a 
third object,— to continue my method of expression by stretching the extension 
of terms, I might say, so that they “create” a third, namely the pair, 
understood as involving all that the tetrad implies concerning these two 
prescinded from C and D. Moreover the tetrad involves a dyad, one of whose 
objects is this pair of A and B, while the other is either C or D, say C. Here 
again the tetrad makes the dyad more than a mere dyad, since it unites C to the 
pair of A and B, and makes them create a new object, their pair. And finally it 
unites this last pair to D. Thus, the entire function of the tetrad is 
performed by a series of Triads; and consequently, there can be no unanalyzable 
tetrad, nothing to be called a quartan element of the Phaneron. Plainly, the 
same process will exclude quintanity, sextanity, septanity, and all higher 
forms of indecomposable elements from the Phaneron. 

To many a reader this reasoning will appear obscure and inconclusive. This 
effect is due to the argument's turning upon such a complex of prescissive 
abstractions; for an abstract concept is essentially indefinite. Now the reader 
would not have been a reader of this paper unless he had had the intellectual 
virtue of striving to give definite interpretations to concepts. But it often 
happens that this virtue being coupled with a particular natural turn of mind, 
breeds an intellectual vice, the bad habit of dropping all lines of study which 
largely introduce indefinite concepts, so that those who contract this habit 
never gain a proper training in handling such concepts. This is by no means the 
only difficulty of mathematics, which incessantly employs them, but it is 
perhaps the chief reason why we find among particularly able professional men, 
and even among thinkers, so many who are completely shut off from mathematics. 
But those whom this demonstration fails to reach may find themselves convinced 
by the facts of observation when we come to consider them. 

Some will ask whether, if every tetrad can be built up out of triads, it must 
not be equally true that every triad can be built up out of dyads. The reason 
has already been stated, namely, that nothing can be built up out of other 
things without combining those other things, and combination is itself 
manifestly a triad. But those who do not see the force of this reason had 
better try to build up a chemical triad, that is, a connected group with three 
free bonds, out of chemical dyads, while observing the law of valency. 

Much might be profitably added to this preliminary a priori study; but even 
with the greatest compression I shall cover too many of the valuable pages of 
the Monist. We must hasten, then, to try how well or ill our a priori 
conclusions are supported by the actual examination of the contents of the 
Phaneron. Let us begin at once.  ]]

This is where we will pick up the thread next time. In response to my previous 
post, Gary R objected to my comments about the scope of the term 
“Phaneroscopy.” He proposed

[[  a very different way of conceiving Peirce's Phenomenology than it appears 
that you are. Using a trikon, this might be diagrammed:

Phaneroscopy (purely observational; employs no logic)

|>Trichotomic (employs a logica utens)

Iconoscopy (employs a logica utens) ]]

My reply was that the Peirce text I’ve been posting is all about the logical 
analysis that precedes observation of the phaneron, which “appears to 
contradict your [Gary R’s] position that ‘phaneroscopy’ employs no logic.” Gary 
R’s reply to that was: “I have never suggested that a phenomenologist observing 
the phenomenon should not have developed keen "mental preparation" for those 
acts of observation. And I have clearly stated in other threads that I think 
that the logic of mathematics is, in fact, extremely important in 
phenomenology. … For Peirce the consequence of this "mental preparation" was 
his positing Three Universal Categories.” I don’t see that as an accurate 
description of what Peirce does in the text we are looking at. He is not 
“positing” anything there; rather, as he says, what he does is to “recommend 
that the hypothesis of the indecomposable elements of the Phaneron being in 
their general constitution like the chemical atoms be taken up as a hypothesis 
with a view to its being subjected to the test of an inductive inquiry.” 

Anyway, Gary R apparently did not intend has statement to be an accurate 
description of what Peirce is doing in this text; indeed, as he says, he “had 
hoped for a very different thread on Phenomenology,” and his statement about 
“positing Three Universal Categories” really belongs to that other thread 
rather than this one. So I hope that will clear up any confusion on that 
matter, and perhaps Gary R will start a separate thread on “possible approaches 
to developing Peirce's Phenomenology further.” In the meantime I’ll welcome any 
questions about the priman, Secundan and Tertian elements of the phaneron, 
prescissive abstraction, or any of the other concepts Peirce is working with 
above.

Gary f.

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