Le 17/08/2021 à 20:41, Jon Alan Schmidt a écrit :
Bernard, List:

For the sake of clarity, please provide an exact quotation where "The slides by De Tienne explicitely claim" that "the world of existences can be scientifically stated without the help of mathematical reasoning."

Thanks,

Here it is:

Slide 25:

Text: *The Urge to Transition out of Mathematics*

• Given mathematics' unbounded search for formal necessities, *we cannot count on mathematicians* to help figure out what goes on in experience.

B. Morand

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On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:35 PM Bernard Morand <morand.bern...@neuf.fr <mailto:morand.bern...@neuf.fr>> wrote:

    List,

    The quote CP 8.110 (JAS to Robert, below) asserting that
    "mathematical reasoning ... never reaches any conclusion at all as
    to what is or is not true of the world existences" is a quasi-truism.

    But the problem at hand is: Is the converse also true ?

    That is to say : can we ascertain that the world of existences can
    be scientifically stated without the help of mathematical reasoning ?

    My response (and I think Peirce's too) is No. The slides by De
    Tienne explicitely claim: Yes.

    Such a standpoint will lead phaneroscopy to limit itself to simple
    inventories of so called phanerons (see the ADT slide about
    oenoscopy, a kind of study which has been known under the label of
    comparativism in Human Sciences before the arrival of Structuralism)

    B. Morand


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