Raghu writes:

>> This is like asking "would I be required to wipe my own ass" in a
>> socialist society. And the answer would be "yes".
>> 
>> 
>> But more seriously, I think what you are referring to is what
>> economists would call a "free-rider" problem. But it only seems like a
>> problem because the economists have a particularly twisted way of
>> looking at the world.
>> 
>> Traditional societies somehow found ways to solve many such
>> "problems". It doesn't have to be based only on wage labor. And there
>> doesn't need to be one single formula either.
>> 
>> I notice that you didn't ask the question .. but what if people didn't
>> want to clean up after their pets?

Yes, many societies/organizations manage to solve such problems without wage 
labor.  My children do many things around the house they do not "want" to do 
without payment of money,   However, there is no claim that my house is a 
socialist democracy, that my children live in the realm of freedom and not 
necessity.

What if somebody doesn't want to clean up after their pets?  I think that is 
true of many people -- that is why in our capitalist democracy, we have rules 
that "require" people to pick up the poo.  So will those rules continue to 
exist under socialism?  If so, how will those rules be made, implemented and 
enforced, and how are those rules philosophically compatible with the realm of 
freedom and not necessity?

David Shemano


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