Max, I want to believe you.  I think that the WSJ's targets are more
likely -- home mortgage deductions, employer provided health care ...
things that will hit the middle class & leave the corps unscathed.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Max Sawicky <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was reacting to Michael's premature condemnation of liberal groups for
> their expected acceptance of SS & Medicare cuts. Most will not accept SS
> cuts, and anything that looks like a cut in Medicare benefits will get a
> negative reaction as well. The extent of their power is a different matter.
> They don't have much.
>
> I think people discount the likelihood that the WH will stand on the 39.6
> top rate restoration (on 'ordinary' income). I also think there is a good
> chance of increased rates on capital gains, estates & gifts, and dividends.
> Note in one sense this has been a fight between the deficit reducers and the
> tax rate reducers, and the former won.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  michael perelman wrote:
>> >> >> I think I know what the grand bargain will be.  Obama will be a hero
>> >> >> to the left by marginally increasing taxes on the people who earn
>> >> >> more
>> >> >> than $250,000.  Then you will cave on Social Security and Medicare
>> >> >> while bragging about his dedication to progressive causes.  Also, in
>> >> >> the name of reforming taxes, he will close the loophole on tax
>> >> >> breaks
>> >> >> that the middle class relies on by, for instance current collecting
>> >> >> taxes on medical insurance provided by employers.
>>
>>
>> Max Sawicky wrote:
>> >> > Bullhocky. If he does that virtually every leftish group will cry
>> >> > foul.
>> >> > Will
>> >> > not happen.
>>
>> me:
>> >> what power do these groups have when the DP and the GOP unite to
>> >> promote a program?
>>
>> Max Sawicky wrote:
>> > Power is a different question. They don't have much.
>>
>> Power is crucial in politics. One reason for these groups' lack of
>> power is that the DP's leadership knows that they will support the DP
>> as long at it's seen as the lesser of two evils.They're not like
>> "swing voters" to be courted.
>> --
>> Jim Devine /  "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your
>> own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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