I have a similar experience with IIS/ASP/VbScript. After a long way 
into the project, I regret using VbScript. The Pain 2 Gain ratio was 
high and I lost interest in a klunky language  that made even 
reading a file or creating a hash ever so difficult. That was when I 
started looking at PHP because my hoster pair.com (who I am 
unhappy about) offers it. I did not want to dive into it without 
seeking comments.

It appears that PHP is a good, flexible scripting environment that 
shines in database and xml applications. But from all of your 
comments, it does not co-habit with perl.  I also noticed nuances in 
syntax.

After having wandered about and trying out different languages and 
environments, I am beginning to find more and more value in Perl. 
My interests cover a wide spectrum .. net connectivity, database, 
text processing, webbing and so on... Perl seems to be 
everywhere. 

I agree with Michael's drift .. 'pick horses for courses'. Having 
identified what PHP and Perl are good at, I will be able to make an 
informed judgement.

One last question... If I do want to use PHP for an application, 
does it preclude or diminishes the use of Perl?

Let the lively debate rage on!



On 5 May 00, at 15:27, Michael Graham wrote:

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> 
> At 07:25 AM 05/05/2000, Oliver Schleede wrote:
> >so, still i can't share your point. 
> 
> Oliver, I'm not trying to convince you to stop using PHP.  Use what you
> need to get your job done.  What I *am* trying to do is to convince the
> people who might be swayed by your success stories.  And I'm also trying to
> help Perl by learning from PHP's success.
> 
> Last year I used PHP exclusively on my main project.  I did so for all the
> reasons you promote.  Ease of use, availability, similarlity to Perl,
> simplicity.  
> 
> Eight months later, I really regretted my decision.  I had seriously
> outgrown PHP.  But by that point I had invested so much in PHP that it was
> very difficult to switch over to Perl without rewriting *everything*.  
> 
> Sure, I could start bolting on each new bit using Perl-CGI, but if I wanted
> the performance of mod_perl, I was looking at a gigantic httpd process
> (mod_perl + mod_php + httpd == BIG).  So what seemed easy and harmless at
> the beginning turned out to easy and harmful.  And it really wasn't easy
> for all that long, either.
> 
> Your mileage may vary.  That's fine.  Really.  Keep using PHP.  Take your
> own path to enlightenment.  But when you promote PHP to others, I do feel I
> have to offer my own cautionary advice.
> 
> Michael
> 
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