I think I have something like 12 Internet drafts at the moment, at least
six of which are on these issues.

I don't write a draft on every proposal and far more people read the emails
than the drafts. Often the idea changes substantially during list
discussions.

Since many of my drafts are now written by a computer, there is not a great
deal more innovative content in the drafts than the on list discussion in
any case.



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Stephen Farrell
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Hi Steve,
>
> On 11/13/2013 02:34 PM, Stephen Kent wrote:
> > Stephen,
> >
> > I agree that mitigation is the preferred term.
> >
> > I am not so comfortable with using this list to incrementally develop
> > new proposals via e-mail exchanges, instead of requiring proposals to be
> > prepared as I-Ds. There are enough folks on the list with IETF I-D prep
> > experience to assist anyone who needs help.
> >
> > The rigor of writing a document usually helps refine one's ideas
> > (and spares others from half-baked notions :-) ).
>
> I agree, which is why I included this bit:
>
> "Those with proposals are encouraged to embody them in
> detailed internet-draft specifications, rather than
> relying solely on email messages."
>
> I'm quite happy to make that a bit stronger if someone
> has words to offer, but we also don't want to push away
> all mail discussion of course - I think it should be
> fine if there's an initial discussion on a topic to see
> if its worth pursuing, so long as that's fairly quickly
> turned into an I-D and we don't get the "design via
> email exchanges" thing taking up everyone's cycles.
>
> S.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Steve
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