Thanks Craig for teaching me a lot of things. I am just learning a lot why
PG hacking/development is the way it is.

Regarding interest and enthusiasm, no problem. Whats is lacking is the
skill-sets and I believe having interest and enthusiasm and with your
support, we will expand PG hacking/devs/usage in Africa and other

People here in Africa using Oracle/SQL Server/IBM products(generally
commercial products) even for which PG is more than enough.

I want to change this scenario and trend and I hope one day in the future
there will be PG conference in Africa/Ethiopia which is my country.


On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Craig Ringer <>

> On 18 April 2017 at 15:41, Kang Yuzhe <> wrote:
> > Thanks Simon for taking your time and trying to tell and warn me the
> harsh
> > reality truth:there is no shortcut to expertise. One has to fail and rise
> > towards any journey to expertise.
> Yeah, just because Pg is hard doesn't mean it's notably bad or worse
> than other things. I generally find working on code in other projects,
> even smaller and simpler ones, a rather unpleasant change.
> That doesn't mean we can't do things to help interested new people get
> and stay engaged and grow into productive devs to grow our pool.
> > Overall, you are right. But I do believe that there is a way(some
> > techniques) to speed up any journey to expertise. One of them is
> mentorship.
> > For example(just an example), If you show me how to design and implement
> > to Hadoop/HBase., I believe that I will manage to design and implement
> > to Cassandra/MengoDB.
> TBH, that's the sort of thing where looking at existing examples is
> often the best way forward and will stay that way.
> What I'd like to do is make it easier to understand those examples by
> providing background and overview info on subsystems, so you can read
> the code and have more idea what it does and why.
> > But almost nothing about The Internals of PostgreSQL:
> Not surprising. They'd go out of date fast, be a huge effort to write
> and maintain, and sell poorly given the small audience.
> Print books probably aren't the way forward here.
> --
>  Craig Ringer         
>  PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services

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