Tom Lane wrote:

Martin Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

The only time that I have ever seen load averages of 30 or more under
OpenBSD is when one of my scripts goes wild.

Note also that "high load average" is not per se an indication that
anything is wrong.  In Postgres, if you have thirty queries waiting
for disk I/O, that's thirty processes --- so if that's the average
state then the kernel will report a load average of thirty.  While
I'm no MySQL expert, I believe that the equivalent condition in MySQL
would be thirty threads blocked for I/O within one process.  Depending
on how your kernel is written, that might show as a load average of
one ... but the difference is completely illusory, because what counts
is the number of disk I/Os in flight, and that's the same.

You didn't say whether you were seeing any real performance problems,
like slow queries or performance dropping when query load rises, but
that is the aspect to concentrate on.

I concur with the nearby recommendations to drop your resource settings.
The thing you have to keep in mind about Postgres is that it likes to
have a lot of physical RAM available for kernel disk buffers (disk
cache).  In a correctly tuned system that's been up for any length of
time, "free memory" should be nearly nada, and the amount of RAM used
for disk buffers should be sizable (50% or more of RAM would be good

regards, tom lane

Under a circumstance where we have 250 concurrent users, MySQL would report an uptime of 0.5 sometimes 0.8 depending on the tasks being performed.

This would translate to wait times averaging less then a second, and under a heavy resource script 4 seconds. That system had less RAM however.

This new system when showing a load average of 30, produced wait times of 12 seconds averages and about 30 seconds for the heavy resource script. The web server itself showed a load average of 0.5 showing that it was not heavy client interaction slowing things down.

So there is a very noticeable loss of performance when the system skyrockets like that. All of the load as indicated by top is at user level, and not swap is even touched.

This may help show why I was slightly concerned.

        Martin Foster
        Creator/Designer Ethereal Realms

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