Re: [PERFORM] Alternatives to Dell?

[Joshua D. Drake]

Go the IBM website, try to find a comparative x86 system and
spec it out. The list pricing is in the $12-16K range. Yes, I know
I could get a good discount if I developed a relationship with
an IBM reseller here..and perhaps the end pricing would be
in the $10-12K range....but the Dell way just seems alot more honest
to me, and reasonable. The IBM gear doesn't seem that much better.

It is my experience that IBM will get within 5% of Dell if you
provide IBM with a written quote from Dell.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

And while I have concerns about some of the Dell
hardware, none of the issues have really caused any issues for me or my clients
here yet.....(crossing fingers..)

I just don't think IBM makes it easy for new customers to buy their equipment 
and
if I went with them, I'd always have the lingering suspicion that I was paying 
too much.

I really hope they change some day...  Until then, I just see Dell winning more 
of the
server market share.

Regards,
Matt --- Original Message---
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From: Steven Rosenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 12/01/2004 4:17PM
Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Alternatives to Dell?

I recommend IBM equipment, but in the spirit of caveat emptor  I should let
you know I work for IBM... :-)

Seriously, I've been using IBM laptops and desktops for about 5 years, even
before I started working for them.  They tend to be a little more expensive
than Dell, but I think they use beefier components and don't cut the specs
quite as close as Dell does.  IBM gear is designed more for industrial use
than home computing, which is reflected in the quality (and the price).

IBM just released a new series of PowerPC-based servers that are
specifically designed to run Linux.  They're at the higher end, but from
what I understand, they provide much more bang for the buck than
Intel-based servers.

I hope this helps,
--- Steve
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            Josh Berkus
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                                      [PERFORM] Alternatives to Dell?

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                  josh

Folks,

A lot of people have been having a devilish time with Dell hardware lately.

It seems like the quality control just isn't there on the Dell servers.

Thing is, some companies are required to use 1st-tier or at least 2nd-tier
vendors for hardware; they won't home-build.   For those people, what
vendors
do others on this list recommend?   What have been your good/bad
experiences?

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--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

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