Hi Kilon,
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:38 AM, kilon alios <[email protected]> wrote: > The problem with relying for everything on smalltalk code and not using > existing technology is two fold > > a) You cannot compete with existing solution, they come with more manpower > , have more features, better documention, more bug fixes, more, more ...... > more > > b) One day the authors of the library decide to give up on the library > because they went off to other things and of course it falls to the > shoulders of others that are much less motivated and have other things in > their plate too with higher priority for them. The library continues to > improve but at a glacial pace. > > Its perfectly ok to try your own things and follow your own road. Everyone > loves to experiment and do things his own way and that has many positive. > But the general refusal to embrace existing technologies even problematic > ones make the job of spreading the Smalltalk appeal much harder. Makes it > harder for people to transition from other languages too. > > This smalltalk mentality is wrong. The end. > I don't understand how your comment relates to the below. Can you fill in the gaps? > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Eliot Miranda <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Craig, >> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Craig Latta <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> > I don't think anybody ever even reported trying [Ffenestri]. >>> >>> I did; it worked. And I just said so again a few messages ago. Hm. >>> >> >> OK. It opens windows. But a snippet in a workspace can do that. It >> does not constitute a replacement for the current window system though does >> it? But Vassili's work can be. We had it in production at customer sites. >> We could use it for development. It was complete, in the sense that one >> could open arbitrary system windows as native windows, switch them back to >> "virtual" windows, snapshot etc and everything would keep working. That's >> "working". With great respect to Tim and John, their work in Ffenestri is >> not the same thing, is it? By the same criteria I don't think what Qwaq >> did constituted a real system; it allowed the login WIndow to be displayed >> natively, but it didn't support development tools and it certainly didn't >> support snapshot or dynamic switching. Being critical is not being >> insulting. It's merely being objective. At least I hope I'm being >> objective and not insulting anyone. It is not my intent. >> >> -- >> best, >> Eliot >> > > -- best, Eliot
