On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:09 PM, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Le 5/6/16 à 23:00, Tudor Girba a écrit : >> >> Hi Stef, >> >> The quotes appear only when you add the result in the playground. > > > No need to explain I'm not idiot and I know it. >> >> The typical use case for this is to keep track of several results. > > No need to explain I'm not idiot and I know it. >> >> In this situation you do not want to modify the code to not affect the >> highlighting and this is why it gets in a comment. > > This is fun because I never ever needed it. But this is probably what > everybody else is doing that since this is the default. > I just write simple code and tests. Indeed I'm not that smart. > > But your tools only embedd your scenario and let the other users forced to > adapt. > > Well you do not want but I do. > I spent my evening removing quotes while writing tests. > > What I hate with the GTTools is that you want to teach me how I should work. > Sorry but good tools do not do that. > Good tools empower the users and not constraint them. > > I work a lot faster when I do not have to remove the wonderful comments or > when I have to copy and paste. > This commenting is breaking the flow of efficient people. May be GT team do > not work write tests in the > debugger but I do most of the time and I'm forced by the environment to > remove quotes all over the places. >> >> If you want to copy the content without quotes, you can do: >> Cmd+p -> popup >> Cmd+c -> selects the current line and copies the text >> Esc >> Cmd+v > > Sorry but I do not want. > I just want to print and modify directly. > 7 keystrokes vs 2 >> >> Perhaps we can add another keybinding like Shift+Enter for adding the text >> without quotes.
I just had a play with this, and another option might be <ctrl-enter>, since the <ctrl> key is still selection from doing <ctrl-P> so there is not much difference in hand movements between <enter> and <ctrl-enter> cheers -ben > > And why not the inverse. > By default printing is printing and if you want to do something else then > you have a special binding. > Now I'm upset with this general attitude (Oh I will teach how you can be a > nice user) that I will turn them off > or go and hack my own settings. Still I'm amazingly sad about this state of > affair. > All these story about GT is hurting me because of this attitude: we are so > smart and we thought a lot and we will teach you > how you should work... and at the end I the end-user has to adapt. > Look at the Spotter discussions: you looked for the graal and I was just > telling to you that I cannot find > simple information such as class refs! > > So what saddens me the most is that > - you pretend to have end-user trying your tools but I have impression > that they are not real power users > or this is yourself and it means that you are never exposed to other > people. > I can still not use Spotter because the way I put my hand on my > keyboard. So should change > - 1 my hands > - 2 my brain > - 3 my keyboard > - 4 do not use the tools? > - funnily enough if I would not have complain aggressively then it looks > like we would have the same than before. > > Your flow is not mine and I go faster my way but your tools force me to get > slow. > I do not have the time to produce a video but I would even if it would give > a bad press to Pharo. > I will do a presentation in the rmod team. Because people do not watch > themselves why acting. > > Good tools empower the users not constraint them. > > GTTools feel often like an overengineer guitar that would have hampered > Jimmy Hendrix to do crazy solos. > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >>> On Jun 5, 2016, at 10:20 PM, stepharo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I would like to know if there is a setting to remove the "" when printing >>> the result of an expression. >>> >>> I know that playground has been thought to help me, but today I watched >>> myself removing the comments >>> >>> code so often that I would like to get a setting because such wrapping of >>> results is really boring for me. >>> >>> I'm spending my time removing them and I start to wonder why they are any >>> useful. >>> >>> I would help me to write fast tests for example in the debugger. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "What we can governs what we wish." >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
