> Hi Pharaos (and Squeak-dev)! :)

Hi goran

are you planning to come finally to esug that we drink beer together?  
This year there will
be a wine tasting social event :)

> Alert to Pharaos: This is a cross post! (hehe)
>
> I just wanted to say (for whatever that is worth) that I like Pharo.  
> And
> I like Squeak.org. And I like everyone doing stuff in/for/on
> Squeak/Pharo/Smalltalk/Huemul whatever.
>
> I have Pharo on my disk. I just started playing in it for a toy  
> project
> involving RB AST, RoelTyper etc.

I got (not tested) a new visitor for RB AST (elf on squeaksource)

> But I do all Gjallar work on 3.10.2/LPF right now, it takes time  
> moving
> a large project to a different baseline, so Gjallar will probably be  
> on
> 3.10.2 for a while. But nothing prevents us from testing out Pharo  
> later
> on - whatever works the best I say. Gjallar is also 95% ported to GS
> these days.

sounds good.

> I agree with Keith/Matthew that making good tools that can *span*
> different forks/communities *must* be a good thing for us all to have.
> All tools don't need to be spanning, but it doesn't hurt if *some*  
> are -
> right?

Exact. This is why I wrote a chapter on Installer for the new pharo  
book :)

> I *also* agree with Pharo people that hey, Pharo is a fork - we/you  
> can
> do whatever we/you like! And that is good - it's the strength of  
> Pharo.
> If Pharo diverts too much in "base stuff" it might turn into a  
> weakness
> - but we just don't know these things, it is still to be seen.

Exact

> It is all about balance, benefits, etc. And we don't need to get angry
> with each other do we? :) Trust me, it just burns your energy!

Exact this is why we did pharo :)
to stop arguing but doing instead: but you know us :)

> I have code that seems to be doing fine in Pharo - SocketStream  
> comes to
> mind.

:) the power of MIT :)
In fact I do not know.

> I know Pharo seem to be more inclined to use Universes than SM -
> fine with me, no problem.
>
> I hope to move SM forward in some way, and I hope it can still be
> loaded/used from within Pharo - even if it gets thrown out soon (I  
> think
> I read something about that).
Yes I read that too :)

> I also intend to use both Pharo, Squeak or
> whatever works best for my different tasks.

Ok if you want to have some feedback on SM we can take that offline.

> And finally I hope to revive DeltaStreams and make that work in  
> Pharo as
> well as most other Squeak flavors.
>
> We are all Squeakers, right? :)
>
> regards, Göran
>
> PS. I am not sure why I am so damn cheerful,

May be you were always like that ;) I do not know I was kind not that  
cheerful most of the
time :)

> perhaps it is the SURGE I
> seem to feel in the Squeak community - so many things going on all  
> over
> the place... ;)

I do not know. We just started to move and to move at our pace
with a shared vision built on our past experience and communication.  
Even our name and logo
means what we want to build: a warm beam of light in dark tempest nights
where any Smalltalker can find a place if he wants.






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