2009/3/4 Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>: >> Hi Pharaos (and Squeak-dev)! :) > > Hi goran > > are you planning to come finally to esug that we drink beer together? > This year there will > be a wine tasting social event :) > I hope i can join you :)
>> Alert to Pharaos: This is a cross post! (hehe) >> >> I just wanted to say (for whatever that is worth) that I like Pharo. >> And >> I like Squeak.org. And I like everyone doing stuff in/for/on >> Squeak/Pharo/Smalltalk/Huemul whatever. >> >> I have Pharo on my disk. I just started playing in it for a toy >> project >> involving RB AST, RoelTyper etc. > > I got (not tested) a new visitor for RB AST (elf on squeaksource) > >> But I do all Gjallar work on 3.10.2/LPF right now, it takes time >> moving >> a large project to a different baseline, so Gjallar will probably be >> on >> 3.10.2 for a while. But nothing prevents us from testing out Pharo >> later >> on - whatever works the best I say. Gjallar is also 95% ported to GS >> these days. > > sounds good. > >> I agree with Keith/Matthew that making good tools that can *span* >> different forks/communities *must* be a good thing for us all to have. >> All tools don't need to be spanning, but it doesn't hurt if *some* >> are - >> right? > > Exact. This is why I wrote a chapter on Installer for the new pharo > book :) > >> I *also* agree with Pharo people that hey, Pharo is a fork - we/you >> can >> do whatever we/you like! And that is good - it's the strength of >> Pharo. >> If Pharo diverts too much in "base stuff" it might turn into a >> weakness >> - but we just don't know these things, it is still to be seen. > > Exact > >> It is all about balance, benefits, etc. And we don't need to get angry >> with each other do we? :) Trust me, it just burns your energy! > > Exact this is why we did pharo :) > to stop arguing but doing instead: but you know us :) > >> I have code that seems to be doing fine in Pharo - SocketStream >> comes to >> mind. > > :) the power of MIT :) > In fact I do not know. > >> I know Pharo seem to be more inclined to use Universes than SM - >> fine with me, no problem. >> >> I hope to move SM forward in some way, and I hope it can still be >> loaded/used from within Pharo - even if it gets thrown out soon (I >> think >> I read something about that). > Yes I read that too :) > >> I also intend to use both Pharo, Squeak or >> whatever works best for my different tasks. > > Ok if you want to have some feedback on SM we can take that offline. > >> And finally I hope to revive DeltaStreams and make that work in >> Pharo as >> well as most other Squeak flavors. >> >> We are all Squeakers, right? :) >> >> regards, Göran >> >> PS. I am not sure why I am so damn cheerful, > > May be you were always like that ;) I do not know I was kind not that > cheerful most of the > time :) > >> perhaps it is the SURGE I >> seem to feel in the Squeak community - so many things going on all >> over >> the place... ;) > > I do not know. We just started to move and to move at our pace > with a shared vision built on our past experience and communication. > Even our name and logo > means what we want to build: a warm beam of light in dark tempest nights > where any Smalltalker can find a place if he wants. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
