I love the condensed menu. I think that the point is not to get one but several effective configurations that people could use when they do not care about license problem.
Stef On May 22, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > gaah, these fat menus and title fonts look awful to me! ;) > Adrian > > On May 22, 2009, at 12:48 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> :) >> looks cool to me. thanks doru. >> >> <Picture 7.pdf><Picture 6.pdf> >> On May 22, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Thanks a lot, that worked fine. >>> >>> So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold >>> for >>> menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use Helvetica >>> Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code where I >>> use Monaco: >>> >>> menuFont := LogicalFont >>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' >>> pointSize: 9 >>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) >>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) >>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). >>> titleFont := LogicalFont >>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' >>> pointSize: 14 >>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) >>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) >>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). >>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8. >>> defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: >>> 9. >>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont. >>> Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont. >>> Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont. >>> Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont. >>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont. >>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>> Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont. >>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts >>>>> configuration >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to specify >>>> in a >>>>> script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can anyone >>>> help? >>>> >>>> >>>> codeFont := LogicalFont >>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' >>>> pointSize: 9 >>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) >>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) >>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). >>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo >>>> core >>>>>> and run the script I posted. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? >>>>>> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot? >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> this is strange because I get a blurry result. >>>>>>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the >>>> 10309dev >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the VM has the FT2plugin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with >>>>>>>> Lucida >>>>>>>> Grande and Monaco: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. >>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. >>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. >>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. >>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' >>>> pointSize: 10. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to >>>> decrease >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With >>>> the >>>>>>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in >>>> Pharo >>>>>>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously >>>>>>>>> expressed there: >>>>>>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code >>>>>>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph >>>>>>>>> damage >>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will >>>>>>>>> RUN >>>>>>>>> AWAY. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default >>>>>>>>>> means >>>>>>>>>> ok >>>>>>>>>> for license and >>>>>>>>>> work on platforms.... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts >>>> even >>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>> they are proprietary. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) >>>>>>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress >>>> girls :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. >>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' >>>> pointSize: >>>>>>>>>> 9. >>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' >>>> pointSize: 11. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>> project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Every thing has its own flow." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. 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